A CREATOR or By Chance?

[dijonworks]

walking in a forest and suddenly you stop and you see a house , did the trees make it, did the house spring up by chance, or was there an intelligent builder behind it all. 

Look at this universe so organized and detailed, all in line - if the sun's position was a little off we would either burn, or freeze.  Someone had to create it lookin out for us.  So much evidence, but people have such little faith.  I love science and science is throught the Bible - the water cycle, the earth is a sphere, how to handle waste, its all there for our benefit not to weigh us down

[queenofnines]

walking in a forest and suddenly you stop and you see a house , did the trees make it, did the house spring up by chance, or was there an intelligent builder behind it all. 

Look at this universe so organized and detailed, all in line - if the sun's position was a little off we would either burn, or freeze.  Someone had to create it lookin out for us.  So much evidence, but people have such little faith.  I love science and science is throught the Bible - the water cycle, the earth is a sphere, how to handle waste, its all there for our benefit not to weigh us down

You obviously haven't been educated on this subject at all.  Your "arguments" are weak and fake and stem from a non-thinking, ignorant position.  You also forgot to mention how the Bible has many more scientific inaccuracies than things it actually gets right.

Fun videos:
- Top Ten Creationist Arguments, p1 (7:55) = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSxgnu3Hww8
- Top Ten Creationist Arguments, p2 (7:18) = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfZFsXfCy6s&playnext_from=TL&videos=segmqsd7M2Y
- Evolution - Evidence and "Gaps" (10:12) = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nTnjx-JRzE&playnext_from=TL&videos=fHvDusH1L2c
- High Stakes Intelligent Designing (9:56) = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_G9awnDCmg&playnext_from=TL&videos=W6-HJhXmWsk
- Yahweh's Delicious Creation (5:33) = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKtuk0ZpnbY&playnext_from=TL&videos=pCJ-5vDN3gY
- Special Investigation - Evolution (10:58) = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBHEsEshhLs&playnext_from=TL&videos=sCRSPBLZugs

I challenge anyone with true courage to watch them all.  Thanks.

[dijonworks]

my question was creator or by chance? I never said anything directly to anyone I was speaking in general, so please no name callin or disrespect.  I am a very well educated woman.  I don't personally know anyone on FC but i love the topics, they are with real meaning, please people dont get nasty, just speak your mind. I am a really cool down to earth person and I will never disrespect anyone, or push my beliefs, ony reason.  There's no need to put pearls before swine.

[Falconer02]

This is nothing more than a cheap watchmaker analogy. Complex artifacts do not, in fact, require a designer. They can and do arise from 'mindless' natural processes.

Look at this universe so organized and detailed, all in line

No. It's not. It's actually pretty scattered, jumbled, and randomized.

if the sun's position was a little off we would either burn, or freeze.

This arose through billions of years. At one point it was burning and one point it was freezing. It wasn't a creator who just created a sphere in a few days, kissed it, and sent it on its way.

I love science and science is throught the Bible

***Does not compute***

Someone had to create it lookin out for us.  So much evidence, but people have such little faith.

Whenever people tend to look at the actual evidence around us (aka close the bible and walk out of the christian safe-zone), I notice a trend where they become atheist or agnostic. This isn't because satan persuades them to do so ( <--that is a mind-game to prevent people from thinking outside the box). It's because of curiosity and the grasp for knowledge of our universe. Defining god and looking for his signature in everything seems like a naive way of keeping yourself away from learning new things that might rock the foundation of what you already think. Religions either call it false info with little-to-no evidence to back up their reasoning or it just tries to make it run parallel to their holy texts somehow-- usually a BS play on words. Example-

"According to the bible, the world was created in a few days. Judging from what the scientists say, there are a few different eras of earths existence. So the days in the bible represent these eras! The bible is right once again!"

I apologize if you took the above as rude --I don't mean to be-- I'm just showing you a rational stance on the matter. Feel free to respond.

[queenofnines]

my question was creator or by chance? I never said anything directly to anyone I was speaking in general, so please no name callin or disrespect.  I am a very well educated woman.  I don't personally know anyone on FC but i love the topics, they are with real meaning, please people dont get nasty, just speak your mind.

I wasn't directly calling you names, I was speaking the truth: it's clear you are not fully educated on this subject.  Otherwise you'd know, for example, that our universe isn't 100% pure chance.  Also you would not present such weak, cliche, and uninformed arguments for "intelligent design". 

I'm not attacking YOU, I'm attacking your "arguments".  I am speaking my mind; you're the one interpreting it as "nasty".  People take the most tame things another person says and get mad because it wasn't presented in a sugar-coated manner...

[reg007]

I definitely believe in a creator over chance.  There has been too many incidents in my life that if were by chance just don't make sense.  Also did you know that they had found something a while back giving scientific proof that Noah's ark existed. You should look it up

[gadzuux]

I believe in a Creator. I am not a scientist or a religious experts. My only answer to this question is based both on faith and the outcome from any random act/question always gravitates to one decisive answer.

[queenofnines]

There has been too many incidents in my life that if were by chance just don't make sense.  Also did you know that they had found something a while back giving scientific proof that Noah's ark existed. You should look it up

Care to give examples of these incidents?  Because like I've said before, even if the probability is 1 in a million for something happening, with 7 billion people on the planet, said "miraculous" event will happen several hundred times a day.  It's just statistics.

And anything related to Noah's Ark is a hoax.  It's you who hasn't done your homework.

[AmyTrivitt]

Mother nature

[queenofnines]

highly doubt any of this is by chance...Makes no sense to me.

Of course it doesn't make sense to you; it's way beyond your head.  That doesn't mean it didn't happen or is not real.  I don't know how my Xbox works internally, but this does not make it magic.  Someone out there DOES know how it works because it's THEIR JOB to...such is the case with cosmology/biology/chemistry/etc.

[sigmapi1501]

What if this entire world is the dream of some innkeeper in New Hampshire?

[Falconer02]

did you know that they had found something a while back giving scientific proof that Noah's ark existed.

Those scientists are furthest from being scientists if they say there's scientific proof. It really is a hoax-- Noah's ark never happened and their is ample proof of this. You need to do a little more research on this yourself to figure out why. That's all it takes.

What if this entire world is the dream of some innkeeper in New Hampshire?

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuude!

[queenofnines]

What if this entire world is the dream of some innkeeper in New Hampshire?

I'd be all for that!   

[FuzzyCottonsocks]

What if this entire world is the dream of some innkeeper in New Hampshire?

Then that fool needs to dream me up some money.  And a Pegasus. 

[carebearmafia]

What if this entire world is the dream of some innkeeper in New Hampshire?

Then that fool needs to dream me up some money.  And a Pegasus. 

Man I'd settle for an Xbox 360...god sure does know how to make a mean gaming platform!