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hicaniplay

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Health Care Bill passed in America
« on: March 21, 2010, 09:42:23 pm »
What is everyone's thoughts?

Are you celebrating or crying? :)

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Re: Health Care Bill passed in America
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2010, 10:33:39 pm »
i know this is America and land of the free,but those against this bill are really blind. Can they not see that health care bill is allowing the government to look out for us rather than big greedy companies who don't give a damn about the people? i don't know about you guys but I'd rather have the government care for me any day. so i guess im celebrating for it because our world probably has a chance for changing now...

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Re: Health Care Bill passed in America
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2010, 07:17:00 am »
I am undecided ... It is great for those without healthcare and believe me I am happy and rejoicing for those :wave: My son and his family fall into that catagory..... but I fear for those like me and my husband  :crybaby2: who are getting a little older and we have good healthcare.  I guess we will have to wait and see how it all works out.

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Re: Health Care Bill passed in America
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2010, 07:38:05 am »
Crying. It's too big and does not solve the problem of curbing the cost of healthcare.

i know this is America and land of the free,but those against this bill are really blind. Can they not see that health care bill is allowing the government to look out for us rather than big greedy companies who don't give a damn about the people? i don't know about you guys but I'd rather have the government care for me any day. so i guess im celebrating for it because our world probably has a chance for changing now...

I'm for less government no matter how well intentioned. I do not want the government to care for me.

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Re: Health Care Bill passed in America
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2010, 07:38:53 am »
"It's the end of the world as we know it..."

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Re: Health Care Bill passed in America
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2010, 07:39:57 am »
I really dont have a clue abut this.  Just have to wait and see who gets screwed.Coz you know someones gonna get screwed. im not sure but I think the elderly. Im unemployed now but i do have health insurance.

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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2010, 09:12:48 am »
It's getting a little scary, although it's not as bad as it could have been. We are taking too much control out of the people's hands and placing it in the big government's hands. Our country was founded on the premise of being the land of the free and home of the brave. Being free means living the way you want, not how some politician thinks you should live. I dislike how the bill uses the force of the government to make people to purchase health insurance. We shouldn't have to purchase anything we don't want to. If you don't want insurance, then you'll have to take on the risks yourself, including the possibility of having to pay higher amounts for pre-existing conditions (which was the insurance companies way to urge people to purchase insurance while they were healthy to offset the costs when they got older and needed the coverage). We have gotten out of the mindset that we have rights and responsibilities. Our rights include freedom of owning our own personal property. Our responsibility includes living a responsible, healthy lifestyle. But our dissociation between rights and responsibilities caused health "insurance" became less about truly insuring against unforeseen events in a person's health and more of a pre-paid medical billing system. Our car insurance doesn't pay for oil changes, brake-pad replacements, gas, etc. So too should health insurance not cover regular check-ups and non-life threatening ailments (eg wart removal, ankle sprains, common cold, etc). But because we are covering everything, health insurance costs have increased.

The really scary thing will be that because the government has a larger financial stake in our health, they will have a larger say in how we handle our health. Say goodbye  :wave: to those juicy rib-eye steaks; the marbled fat, although lending to the taste of this cut of beef, also leads to heart disease, and if the government is paying for heart disease coverage, then we can't allow people to eat it.  See-ya bacon, gonna miss ya! Candy and ice cream? Na, diabetes is on the rise... :bs: Don't think that's likely? We've just seen government place a large financial stake in the auto industry as well as in the financial sector. And after doing so, they started dictating how those businesses operate. OK, I may have exaggerated a little for the current health care bill. But our president has stated on numerous occasions that his eventual goal would be a single-payer system, and he is not alone in this desire. Unfortunately this bill is just the first step towards getting that.

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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2010, 09:41:01 am »
i come from socialist country, and i think this is where this is heading with the health bill reform. Also, we are getting penalized for earning money now as the taxes are going to get increased substantially....more taxes, less doctors, more waiting time to get an appointment....fun times are coming :)

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Re: Health Care Bill passed in America
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2010, 09:57:07 am »
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Can they not see that health care bill is allowing the government to look out for us rather than big greedy companies who don't give a damn about the people?

Sounds like politicians to me.  The system needs to be fixed.  They need to go after the big insurance companies making a killing and denying people left and right because they want to make more money instead of helping people live.  We should focus more on prevention and living healthier lifestyles.  People are eating themselves to death.  We won't see what will happens until years from now but I hope it will do something better than it is now.  

No one should be afraid to go to to the doctor because it costs to much or it takes 6 months to get an appointment.  The best health care I have ever received was when I lived in Taiwan.  You can walk into any doctor's office and get seen right then and there no six month waits.  People go to the doctor for a cold.  Most Americans wait until they are almost on death's door before they will see a doctor because it costs too much.  There is something wrong with that picture.  Why are we so behind the rest of the word taking care of it's citizens?

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Re: Health Care Bill passed in America
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2010, 10:24:42 am »
I am really glad that the health bill passed.  Yes it will take time to sort things out and there are always some negatives.  Since the insurance companies have not always done what is good for the people, but instead have chosen to put profits/being greedy first, then I am all for the government in getting involved- in fact, I demand it.  Government is becoming more involved because people keep making poor choices or choose to do the wrong thing.  Everyone should have health insurance, just like everyone must have auto insurance.  We are all tired of paying for other people's health insurance bills, who have no insurance.

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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2010, 10:32:26 am »
Hooray! It's about time.

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Re: Health Care Bill passed in America
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2010, 10:55:26 am »
i know this is America and land of the free,but those against this bill are really blind. Can they not see that health care bill is allowing the government to look out for us rather than big greedy companies who don't give a damn about the people? i don't know about you guys but I'd rather have the government care for me any day. so i guess im celebrating for it because our world probably has a chance for changing now...
If thats how you see it, your rather blind. I lived in a country where the government controls healthcare and let me tell you it is terrible. People are taxed up to 70 cents of every dollar and still the system is financially challenged. The government can't keep up with the debt it owes and it increases every day. People are on waiting lists for healthcare, diagnostic scans and treatment for serious diseases. What bothers me the most about the Obama plan is that it forces people to get insurance whether they can afford it or not. Where is the freedom to choose? Where is the freedom period? As you can see the government is gaining more control over the people with every passing day, and soon there will be no democracy. Democracy will be replaced with communisim. Thats the direction the country is going in.
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Re: Health Care Bill passed in America
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2010, 11:09:58 am »
After the narrow victory for the Health car plan I find myself feeling sad for the American people.  First, let say I feel strongly that a good health care plan for the American people is and has been long needed.  I differ from this health care plan in the way it was reached.  The old medical plan has several good points and several very bad points.  Instead of reinventing the wheel which this plan will do I would have prefered keeping the good points as a base and putting inplace good fixes for all the none working and corrupt points of the old health care plan.  Another point if our congress was truely working to use a sharpe pencil on costs. ALL pork would have been removed when presented.  All representatives would have pulled all money's for there districts out of the bill. No buying votes for Louisana Purchases, Nebraska deal, Flordia, and union deals etc. etc. etc. all have a large number of dollars attached to the health care bill.  President Obama said on his Fox interview that he wants the Lousiana deal as part of the health care because Huri cain Katrina caused so much damage.  Excuse me the federal government has many other agencies that deal with these catatrophies.  How come Mississippi didn't get a maching amount of bucks?  Didn't Mississippi have a Katrina event to?  Everyone needs to remember the costs are going up---if not now in the future.  This is just the way it is.

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Re: Health Care Bill passed in America
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2010, 11:16:00 am »
Look how corrupt system is before the bill how we going control the corruption when were more then tripling the amount of people involved?

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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2010, 01:08:07 pm »
I feel like the health care bill is going to do nothing but give the government more power and drag our country deeper in debt.  The problem with health care is not only the health insurance companies it is also the health care professionals (doctor's offices, hospitals, etc) and the pharmaceutical companies over charging for services and medications, which in turn causes our health insurance rates to increase.  The problem with health care like most things in the US is greed.  I do not feel that this health care bill is going to help at all.

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