I do NOT believe in god

[queenofnines]

This is where I got the Einstein Stuff and Queen I think my website has more credibility than yours.

http://www.time.com/time/2007/einstein/16.html

Hmm, that's interesting.  That article you linked to was written in 2007, when the quotes I mentioned were not revealed (via his letters) until 2008.  Again, RESEARCH!!

Sources: The NY Times, MSNBC, The Huffington Post, and dozens of other news sources

You have a real problem little girl.

I always find it hilarious when someone who is only a couple years older than another person "talks down" to the person, as if they have leagues of more life experience than the other person does!  

In any event, I'd rather be labeled as a little girl than a crazy troll any day.  **wink****wink**

[jordandog]

@marielissa:
Walter Isaacson, the author in your link, also got taken to task and laughed at by most literary and scientific critics for using all those (supposed) quotes from Einstein in such a way as to be completely out of context. The author misrepresented Einstein's views by failing to describe exactly what he meant by "religion" ie the mysteries of the Universe itself. Not a theistic God and he certainly did not believe that Jews (his 'people') were the chosen people of God. I'll repeat it, do some research before you put something out there!

Proof please! Where is your source? Show me and if you can't then STFU!

I'll tell you how this works, since you have no idea. You do your own research on it and, if you do it correctly, you'll find citings to back up what I said. Here is a hint- S. Hawking and R. Dawkins.
Ah yes, "STFU". Yet another 'Christian' phrase showing intellect (note, did NOT say 'intelligence') and an adult way of getting your point across. You have so much to learn and are a disgrace to people close to the same age you are like Falconer and queenofnines. They are in the same age group as my youngest son and and as with him, I enjoy hearing their views on things because they explore the world, research if needed, and don't make idiotic statements based purely on feelings and not facts. You would do well to learn from them and others on how to conduct yourself within a discussion - of any kind.

[jordandog]

You changed your age on your profile??!!!!! Now you are 16 all of a sudden? You need serious help......
That also makes it seem as if every single post on other topics was all  too. Bet you didn't think about that one, did you? For the record, I looked at your profile/age when I initially started reading the 'crap' you wrote everywhere. Unbelievable.

[jordandog]

I said look up things said about the author and book you referred to/posted the link to, NOT what they personally though about religion. Forget it, you don't know that you don't know and that makes you a lost cause as far as I am concerned.

[queenofnines]

You changed your age on your profile??!!!!! Now you are 16 all of a sudden? You need serious help......

Well that's certainly closer to the age she acts.  Haha.  That's pretty funny because I was going to put an asterisk after the part where I said "only a couple years older than another person" and include "(or so she claims, she could be 16 for all we know)".  But I cut that part out because I try to, you know, make things not sound too wordy or unclear.

My husband also said she sounds like she is in high school.

[Falconer02]

This is really really sad. What a weirdo.

[jordandog]

How many posts are you going to put up about Hawkings that have nothing to do with my comment earlier? I said his views on the book you brought up, NOT his views on religion. You are such a lying hypocrite that your posts have no business even being here, so please follow your usual M.O. and delete them. While you're at it, why not delete your account too? I wonder if FC has a policy about lying as far as your personal info. Hmmm, I believe they just might. My son, the youngest one (26) read through some of this and laughed his a** off! He also said, "I know what you would have done IF I ever walked into the house with a girl (he didn't use 'girl', I did) like her!" 

[FuzzyCottonsocks]

guys, cant we all just have our own beliefs and be satisfied with that, respected the beliefs of other people as well?

[queenofnines]

Why do you assume people believe in God because the above two things: Purposelessness and death? So if it a natural human fear, wouldn't that mean you have it also?

Seriously now...those ARE the main reasons people subscribe to religion.  While there are certainly other reasons - a sense of "community", for example - feeling like there's a point to/more than the 70 or so years people get before they die and are gone forever IS THE PRIME PRODUCT ALL RELIGION IS SELLING.  Another major/important reason people believe is because life can sometimes suck, and they want to feel like they have a paternal figure looking out for them when their dog gets run over by a car, their mom gets cancer, their house gets broken into...

As for it being a "natural human fear", of course we all consider the above things at some point - it is in our genes to do such.  It's just some us (like me) are able to get over the fact that we will die, life can suck/be pointless, and this is it.  Some of us do not need a fake security blanket to get through life.

[queenofnines]

quote author=marieelissa

"I believe people want answers and knowledge more than anything. Just believing in God satifies this lack of knowledge until something else comes along."

There, I edited your post to say what it really should.  And a lot of answers *are* out there (regarding our origins, for example); people are either too lazy to take the time to educate themselves, or they don't accept the harsh truths that science offers.

"I asked myself that question when I was a child, how can I delude myself into thinking my parents love me when they take away my toys and ground me and spank me."

Ask yourself how god can love you when he says, "You have free will to follow me, but if you don't, I will torture you forever".  Not quite the same as your human parents, sorry.

[queenofnines]

You think people couldn't cope and function if they knew the truth about God? I know Atheists probably couldn't but let's just assume he isn't there...people adapt they are very adaptable.

Okay, that part I bolded of yours makes no sense.  Atheists already are coping.

As for people being adaptable, yes, a lot of people who be just fine if they abandoned their God Habit.  They would simply have to adjust their thinking in some areas.

As for ALL people being adaptable to there not being a god...no.  We are not there yet as a species.  Some people would get really depressed and kill themselves, while others would think there being no god gives them a free pass to go out and do awful things with no consequence (uh, there would still be judicial consequences, idiots!).

[queenofnines]

You say: That is what religious people are being close-minded about, because they are so scared of that being true that they completely overlook it as even being an available reality.
I ask: Why do you think people are like this? Maybe because they are human and having kids and they love themselves or other people. I don't think it a bad thing because I get the feeling you are trying to make it look like it is. I just think this is the problem Intelligent advanced life forms run into. Do you think any other life on Earth cares if there is a God or Heaven? LOL

I might add I am religious and I know it is a 50/50 chance whether there's a God or not.

Why are people scared to think there's no god?  Because then life suddenly becomes very fragile and unstable.  You could die at any moment and be gone forever as an atheist.  Or you could live a good life to a ripe ol' age and then die, but that is still but a speck and pointless compared to the grand cosmological timespan.  Once your life is over, nothing you have ever said or done or felt will have mattered (unless you do something important that survives a few generations).  So, people naturally think, what's the point of living at all??  It's very, very scary at first to accept that all of this bullsh*t that makes our world go 'round is ultimately pointless.

And beliefs are a bad thing when they oppose on other peoples' rights to happiness and a free life (gays not being allowed to marry or blowing random people up in the name of your god, to name a small few).

Things are rarely 50/50 in anything.  Given the current evidence, I'd say it's 99.99/.01...the larger number being against any supernatural element.

[jordandog]

Once your life is over, nothing you have ever said or done or felt will have mattered.  So, people naturally think, what's the point of living at all??  It's very, very scary at first to accept that all of this bullsh*t that makes our world go 'round is ultimately pointless.

Are you speaking for yourself and how you feel? Because that is not how I feel. It matters now because it is happening now. Who cares what happens after you die. You need to live in the now. The point of living is to live. Life is not pointless if you live it. Don't be so concerned about the next chapter and finish the one you are in now.

Quote from: marieelissa on April 28, 2010, 11:36:52 am
Life isn't better than Heaven, and that is why I can't wait for it to be over. I know I will go to Heaven when I die.
My outlook on life is fine, but compared to Heaven...well life is not so great.
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So, yet again, you contradict yourself? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.......
Get off the fence and figure out what you actually stand for.

[Falconer02]

Trollin' trollin' trollin',
Marie keeps a trollin',
Trollin' everybody,
Rawhide!

[FuzzyCottonsocks]