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queenofnines

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #495 on: April 04, 2010, 10:06:40 am »
Your soul doesn't stop functioning just your brain. I will remember life and take all my life experiences with me when I die.

That is not physically possible.  Explain people with Alzheimer's, people who hit their heads and are suddenly completely different people, etc.  Where do their "souls" go??
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
-- Carl Sagan

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #496 on: April 04, 2010, 11:45:13 am »
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That is not physically possible.  Explain people with Alzheimer's, people who hit their heads and are suddenly completely different people, etc.  Where do their "souls" go??


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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #497 on: April 04, 2010, 12:21:53 pm »
Ok just for the record I'm scared to respond to this topic, but I will anyway, because I've always been curious about atheist and, so please dont get mad ok I want to ask if atheist celebrate holidays this is probably a stupid question but I honestly dont know much about atheist and I just want to learn thats all so please enlighten me about this. :peace:

Why are you scared?  Atheists are nice people, so long as whoever we're talking with isn't spewing ignorance.  If you're open-minded and eager for education, we're here to help.

In answer to your question, I would guess a lot of atheists continue to celebrate whatever holidays they did before due to family pressure, for their kids, or they personally enjoy the holiday.  They would simply celebrate whatever holiday in a more secular nature (i.e., not go to church).

I personally have stopped celebrating all holidays as of a few years ago.  I did this because: 1) all holidays are rooted in ridiculous religious traditions and contain many pagan customs (just do the research!)  2) the "major" ones like Christmas and Easter support Christianity/a belief in god  3) I don't have kids, so what's the point of celebrating something like Halloween and  4) I'm no longer a kid, and doing the same tired traditions for X number of years in a row gets old.  I don't need a routine date to look forward to on my calendar for my life to be interesting or purposeful.  I do much bigger things - like travel the world - that gives me something to look forward to.

My biggest beef is with Christmas.  I think that is the absolute worst one of them all.  The obvious Jesus factor aside, I hate how commercialized it is and the sick "obligation" everyone has for buying presents for people that they don't bother to care for with gifts any other time of the year (you know, true thoughtfulness).  I've worked at places during the holidays where I was appalled to see so many people being smug with themselves for buying the absolute cheapest sh*t they could find for someone on their list, proving they were simply going through the motions rather than genuinely caring.  Many people would also buy such cheap crap in July and tell me they're "saving" it for Christmas.

I'm not a materialistic person and can afford to get whatever I want on a daily basis.  I don't need people giving me crap I don't need or want, and I don't want to give them crap they don't need or want, which is another reason I'm glad I don't celebrate Christmas.  I am debt-, stress-, and obligation-free on a seasonal basis.   ;D
I'm not scared of atheist at all I'm scared of people getting offended and irrational it happens a lot in topics like this, I have no fear of any denomination, it is only reaction I fear and nothing else. :)

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #498 on: April 05, 2010, 04:53:22 pm »
But yet life is great, so great that people continue wanting to live and make babies. Makes perfect sense!

It's called our genes.  Our genes force the majority of us to survive and reproduce.  Life is NOT great for millions of people, but because our genes are so powerful, most of us are scared to die and will press on living a sh*tty life because that's all we have.
Well this is just a shot in the dark, but ever think it could both our creator and science working together, just a thought, though you obviously know a lot about the science of how our body's work, and your right everyone's life isent perfect my life isen't perfect, in fact sometime it can be down right crappy but through it all, I still have faith that a creator dose exist, and I also must to say this discussion is very interesting I am very intrigued by it. :peace:

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #499 on: April 05, 2010, 04:54:42 pm »
i think everyone should believe in what makes them feel good

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #500 on: April 05, 2010, 05:08:16 pm »
believing or not believing in god is a personal decison and no one should tell you what to belive in. if you cant bring your mind to it that is your own thing.

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #501 on: April 07, 2010, 07:39:27 am »
does anyone know the difference between religion and christianity ? religion is mans pursuit of god and christanity is gods pursuit of man . religion is a bunch of man made rules and christianity is investagatin he truth of gods word and applying it to your life . believeing that jesus died for our transgressions and rose again so that we may know the lord . thats all he wants is to know us and us to have a personal relationship with him.

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Re: I do NOT believe in god either
« Reply #502 on: April 09, 2010, 05:52:03 am »
Figured all these people are posting about how they think god exists and blah, blah, blah.......so I thought I'd create my own topic.
I do not believe nor will I ever.  You can preach and testimony all you want, I grew up a Catholic, and was one until about two years ago.  I have researched, studied, and believed until that point.  I know alllll about being a christian, faith, god, etc.
Personally, I don't believe anyone should rub it into anyone's face that they are goin to hell for not believing...
That they are wrong for not believing...
That the person preaching is better than the non-believers or feels sorry for the non-believers because they don't believe...

  Great job creating a post that seems to bring out something passionate from so many people.  I am a proud pagan, and my wife is a dedicated Christian, so it's a common debate in my home.   I have tremendous respect for everyone who earnestly tries to explain their faith, and honestly opens up to others.  Although I think everyone makes a CHOICE of their faith, I would NOT call it a decision.  And certainly not describe it as a rational one.  What each person believes in their heart may be very different than what they can understand or rationalize in their mind - Pagans and Atheists included.  Sometimes I wish I could just give up and follow a church or a group.  It would be easier.  But I have to follow what I believe is the truth, and it's NOT any God or Gods.

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #503 on: April 10, 2010, 11:20:09 am »
The enemy of Faith is knowledge, the more wisdom you aquire the less faith you require. God can be many things to diffrent persons. For some Money is their God. It is what we turn to in a moment of desperation and sometimes insanity. All religion is men made and all holy books are written by men.
The one thing that we all most believe in so that we can better ourselfs and those around us , is we must believe in ourselves and we must love ourselves other wise their is no salvation in this life or the next. So I say have faith in you and may the force of you be with you.

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #504 on: April 10, 2010, 12:39:01 pm »
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Although I think everyone makes a CHOICE of their faith, I would NOT call it a decision.
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Sometimes I wish I could just give up and follow a church or a group.  It would be easier.

I think many people are guilt-tripped into making a forced decision whether it be fear of losing their families respect to fear of what happens when we die. And many of the 'guilt-trippers' are from large churches preaching the fear of hell and saying you have to accept a jewish carpenter as your god or a man on a winged-horse flying to heaven and speaking with god for a dozen years or so. Though they're capitalizing on it and calling it love, they're taking advantage of fear and swaying minds.

You seem to know this because you say it sounds easier. You seem to have your head on straight and you're brave for sticking to your guns. Good for you.

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #505 on: April 10, 2010, 01:53:30 pm »
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Falconer02 believes in God but the way he talks about Jesus Christ must mean he don't believe in the God that is associated with Christ.
Falconer02 must believe in another God.

I don't believe in your personalized god because I believe it is so defined by humans that it does not exist. I only nod my head in saying that there might be a god. At this point it is unknowable if it exists or how it effects us. We live in a rational physical world and I don't see any extraordinary evidence pointing to any personalized gods out there. Especially the big-name ones.

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Thanks God, make them drop off like flies.

Delusional mindset example here.

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #506 on: April 10, 2010, 02:47:12 pm »
I don't believe in your god.

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But let me just see if they make another entrance into Fusion Cash

Hey, people! Look! Proof of god!

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #507 on: April 14, 2010, 05:39:26 am »
I'm finding that atheists are almost as bad religious zealots.  As much as religious people love to shout from the rooftops that they believe in whatever god/gods, atheists seem to love parading around saying "I don't believe in god!"  It all makes me do this:  :BangHead:

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #508 on: April 14, 2010, 08:08:40 am »
Figured all these people are posting about how they think god exists and blah, blah, blah.......so I thought I'd create my own topic.
I do not believe nor will I ever.  You can preach and testimony all you want, I grew up a Catholic, and was one until about two years ago.  I have researched, studied, and believed until that point.  I know alllll about being a christian, faith, god, etc.
Personally, I don't believe anyone should rub it into anyone's face that they are goin to hell for not believing...
That they are wrong for not believing...
That the person preaching is better than the non-believers or feels sorry for the non-believers because they don't believe...

Everyone is equal.  We need to respect ourselves, respect our fellow man, and respect our earth before we give respect to some statue who we 'think' died on a piece of wood.  Doesn't the bible tell you not to worship man-made idols?  Well, were you there at the time of christ?  Isn't the bible a tool of a man-made idol IE the cross?  Isn't the figure of your christ on a cross in churches an idol?  Furthermore, how do christians believe so differently amongst themselves...IE..Baptists, Catholics, Etc....... They all condemn each other because they all interpret the bible differently.  It's all very silly to me.  I believe in equality, I belive in peace and justice and love.  I don't believe there is some evil(my definition) person waiting for me at some pearly gates telling me that I lived badly so he can send me to hell.  Too many evil doers, injustices, and just plain nastyness in this would to suggest to me that someone is watching over us. 
i believe in god he is everythig is the king

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Re: I do NOT believe in god
« Reply #509 on: April 15, 2010, 06:58:50 am »
  Anyone know why Satan is known as "the great deceiver" and not God?  Any intelligent theories?

Because if he was known as "the honest one" he wouldn't make a very good bad guy?

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