I do NOT believe in god

[laceybriglia]

Could you explain the big bang theory accompanied with explanations from scientists that you can refute with the existence of god? Also, could you send me the names of the science books you used in your studying? College courses? Do me a favor and don't use any creationist websites for this one as that easily taints and destroys the argument. I'm just curious to know your education of your opinion. The reason I ask this is because you use 'Christianity' and 'makes sense' in the same sentence.

Are you serious? First of all yes I did learn about the big bang theory in high school and in college and it just so happens my college professor was a very very strong believer in the big bang theory.. So he made sure he explained it in depth. I also had to do various reports on this theory so I had to study it for a while. I read so many articles and books about this subject and you expect me to remember every website and book? Christianity makes sense to me. Is it that hard for you to understand that you and I have different viewpoints?

[Falconer02]

Is it that hard for you to understand that you and I have different viewpoints?

No. I just asked for your sources. Could you pull those reports out and read me the bibliography please? I might want to read them myself.

[laceybriglia]

No. I just asked for your sources. Could you pull those reports out and read me the bibliography please? I might want to read them myself.

No. I'm sorry but I don't feel like I need to go through my old reports and tell some stranger the sources I used 2 years ago just so they can believe I have knowledge of a theory. It's not worth it. I feel like your calling me a liar. It's like you seriously don't believe I know anything about the big bang theory... Whatever. I really don't care I know that I have perfect knowledge of what the big bang theory is. Go ahead and quiz me.

[Falconer02]

I'm just trying to wrap my head around why someone would disassociate their study in something that has realistic forms of evidence and could be proven through science one day and favor something that is strictly faith-based that has no evidence except for the individuals opinion on things (thus my flat/round-world example). From my viewpoint it just sounds easier to do. Is this right?

[laceybriglia]

Why does christianity make sense?
That is such an easy question yet such a hard one. I could type hundreds of paragraphs to tell you why it makes sense to me. First of all when I was i middle school they taught me that God was the creator. They used scientific proof and everything made perfect sense. They used proof similar to this website:http://www.icr.org/article/summary-scientific-evidence-for-creation/ I know you stated so many times to not use creationism sites but this site has scientific proof as well.I went to a different school system in high school and they taught me about the big bang theory... It made sense at first but the more I looked into it the more it made absolutely no sense. It totally contradicts itself. It ignores the First law of Thermodynamics, which says: "matter cannot be created or destroyed"The more I learned about the big bang theory the more I thought how impossible it was. I mean if I told you that thousands of pieces of timber were set in motion by a tornado in a lumberyard and this ultimately resulted in the amazing design and complexity of the house you live in, you would think this was absurd to say the very least.  Well how did this big bang create such a complex thing like our world? The big bang theory also ignores The 2nd law of Thermodynamics" which says: "Everything tends towards disorder." For a scientific theory it sure does ignore a lot of scientific laws..
I will finish this tomorrow...

[angel379227]

Let's not forget it took Jesus three days to die.

Let me "split some more hairs" then and ask....what good "Bible" did you get that incorrect information from?

That was a complete mistake that I'm very embarrassed over. Your other responses are unworthy of a riposte. Your own god commands fear and yet you accuse it of being a tool of the devil. This kind of reasoning makes my head explode.

[queenofnines]

And tell me where this matter came from? How did that get here? What is your explanation to that?
And this big giant explosion just happend and it created a world with a sun and moon to keep it perfectly livable.....lol yeah right. That is crazy. And who is to say that God didn't have anything to do with that big bang? Maybe God created that big unexplanable reaction.

Who cares?  There is always going to be a point that we don't know something -- that doesn't mean fill in a magical guy in the sky and that automatically makes sense and is sufficient!  You're trying to find a loophole or gap in science, not realizing that stuffing a lack of knowledge with "god" doesn't solve ANYTHING.

The world WAS an accident.  I know that isn't nice to hear; it's like when your mom and dad tell you that you were an "accident" -- you want to believe that you were lovingly planned, but hey, you can at least be glad you're alive.  Not like you'd care if you weren't alive, but that's beside the point... 

Out of a billion galaxies, NO, IT IS NOT IMPROBABLE that at least *one* would be livable!!!  Seems like a waste of space on god's part, actually, to make this vast universe, brimming with other galaxies and solar systems, but then only be concerned with our little insignificant planet and the idiots on it.

I thought god created the world in 7 days 6,000 years ago?  Or are you in the camp that knows that is impossible? 

Why would you claim god would use the Big Bang 14 billion years ago; exactly what the hell was god doing leading up to humanity, then?  Oh, right, "evolving" things...but wait, evolution is a lie!  I'm so confused...

[queenofnines]

Sheryl: again, you must have missed my statements that I wasn't aware that it was a Catholic Bible.  I did not pull the verses from my own Bible (which is KJ and sitting on the bookshelf); I got them online because it's easier than having to page through and type things out.  Regardless, you're ignoring the fact that it says the same horrible things in any freaking version of the Bible!!  Enough said.

Also...why are you so sure Catholics "wrong", anyway?  I wasn't a Catholic, but it seems non-denominational Christianity is the white supremacist, "America is the greatest country" brand of religion. 

All denominations are equally crazy...

[laceybriglia]

Queen,
Were the scientists there when the big bang supposedly happened?
Wow they made aHUGE guess to how the world was created. They made it up off the top of their heads with a little backup of what they call evidence. Why do you think it is called the big bang theory because that's all it is. It's a theory (A theory that makes no sense.) And people like you are like "It's science it's true. Science is always right." No it's not. There have been millions of scientific theories that have been proven wrong.. Scientists seriously need to just stop making illogical guesses to how this world was made. God created it. End of story.

[kew004]

You should check out books written by C.S. Lewis... They are very helpful for doubtful people. He basically uses a skeptic argument to find what is really true in the world. He is now so strong in his faith and belief in the reality of God and His kingdom, that he has written all of these truly inspiring books that will either convince you that there is a God out there, or change your life forever.  Trust me.   

[alou67]

I just hate when a church stands up for the pastor (priest or any other higher up) when they have committed such awful sins, sins that they preach to followers about everyday. I'd have so much more respect for the church stepping forward and admitting that the pastor-the one everyone trusted- had f-ed up.

I totally agree. If a preist or pastor messes up he should be kicked out of the church. They should not cover up for his mistakes. That's almost as wrong as the things that he has done. This is probably another reason I don't go to church.

Thanks for posting back to my reply. it's nice to hear this from someone that is religious and this is the whole reason i don't attend church. It's not that i don't believe in God it's just i don't believe in organized religion. If God (or whatever higher up) is what everyone portrays as "perfect" then i believe he doesn't give a damn what label or church or even bible you read or live by. Thanks again Lacey for responding, it mattered to me:)

[liljp617]

Sheryl: again, you must have missed my statements that I wasn't aware that it was a Catholic Bible.  I did not pull the verses from my own Bible (which is KJ and sitting on the bookshelf); I got them online because it's easier than having to page through and type things out.  Regardless, you're ignoring the fact that it says the same horrible things in any freaking version of the Bible!!  Enough said.

Also...why are you so sure Catholics "wrong", anyway?  I wasn't a Catholic, but it seems non-denominational Christianity is the white supremacist, "America is the greatest country" brand of religion.  

All denominations are equally crazy...

   I NEVER SAID Catholics are wrong, what I said was their translation of the Bible is one that is known to have been modified to suit their fancy.

Which Bible are you using and what languages was it translated from?   (hint: it was translated from the same languages the "Catholic Bible" was)

[liljp617]

Someone asks where the matter came from.  Open a physics book and do a little research.  Here, I'll get you started:

1) E = mc^2
2) Vacuum fluctuations
3) Two scenarios in which scientists have observed matter arising without anything creating it.  Spontaneous.

Have fun.  Don't comment until you've made an honest effort on the research and an honest attempt at understanding.

Queen,
Were the scientists there when the big bang supposedly happened?
Wow they made aHUGE guess to how the world was created. They made it up off the top of their heads with a little backup of what they call evidence. Why do you think it is called the big bang theory because that's all it is. It's a theory (A theory that makes no sense.) And people like you are like "It's science it's true. Science is always right." No it's not. There have been millions of scientific theories that have been proven wrong.. Scientists seriously need to just stop making illogical guesses to how this world was made. God created it. End of story.

I can't tell if you're being serious or not.  Please state if you are or aren't.  Thank you.

But just for fun, here's some cool "just theories" outside of the Big Bang:

Germ Theory - A scientific theory that proposes that microorganisms are the cause of many diseases.  Have you ever been to a doctor when you were ill?  Did you start screaming in his face "IT'S JUST A THEORY!!" when he prescribed you some medicine?  Ever taken an antibiotic?  Don't trust those screwy doctors with their crazy "guesses" on why people get sick.

Plate Tectonics - A scientific theory which describes the large scale motions of Earth's lithosphere.  It's just a "random guess" that the Earth is made up of plates, and it's an even bigger "guess" (AND ONE THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!) that when these plates move and collide it causes earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, etc.  Screwy geologists and their nonsensical guesses, huh?

General Relativity - The basis of our understanding of gravity and the foundation of much of modern physics.  But hey, it's just a stupid guess by some idiots in lab coats.  What do they know?  Better go back to that one book with the talking snakes and stuff...the people who wrote that knew their *bleep*!

I'll stop there until I hear back from you on whether or not you were being serious.  I can't imagine someone being that ridiculously ignorant, but hey, I wouldn't be surprised.

[laceybriglia]

Thanks for posting back to my reply. it's nice to hear this from someone that is religious and this is the whole reason i don't attend church. It's not that i don't believe in God it's just i don't believe in organized religion. If God (or whatever higher up) is what everyone portrays as "perfect" then i believe he doesn't give a damn what label or church or even bible you read or live by. Thanks again Lacey for responding, it mattered to me:)

No problem  
I feel the same way about churches. I've attended so many churches with the most hypocritical people and the only reason they go is just because it makes them feel like they're going to heaven. Going to church will not make up for the horrible things they do when they aren't at church.

[laceybriglia]

liljp617,
Wow. Anyone with half a brain could figure out the theories you stated. I mean are you serious? Is the question... Don't you think how this world came to be may be a tad bit harder to figure out then gravity? Did I ever say every theory was wrong? OF COURSE NOT! A scientific fact and a scientific theory are two completely different things. Many scientists do not think the big bang theory is how earth came to be. You're being f-ing rude. Calling me ignorant just because I believe something different than you? That's just pathetic. You don't insult people because they have different beliefs than you.