I do NOT believe in god

[Kymberli0529]

Figured all these people are posting about how they think god exists and blah, blah, blah.......so I thought I'd create my own topic.
I do not believe nor will I ever.  You can preach and testimony all you want, I grew up a Catholic, and was one until about two years ago.  I have researched, studied, and believed until that point.  I know alllll about being a christian, faith, god, etc.
Personally, I don't believe anyone should rub it into anyone's face that they are goin to hell for not believing...
That they are wrong for not believing...
That the person preaching is better than the non-believers or feels sorry for the non-believers because they don't believe...

Everyone is equal.  We need to respect ourselves, respect our fellow man, and respect our earth before we give respect to some statue who we 'think' died on a piece of wood.  Doesn't the bible tell you not to worship man-made idols?  Well, were you there at the time of christ?  Isn't the bible a tool of a man-made idol IE the cross?  Isn't the figure of your christ on a cross in churches an idol?  Furthermore, how do christians believe so differently amongst themselves...IE..Baptists, Catholics, Etc....... They all condemn each other because they all interpret the bible differently.  It's all very silly to me.  I believe in equality, I belive in peace and justice and love.  I don't believe there is some evil(my definition) person waiting for me at some pearly gates telling me that I lived badly so he can send me to hell.  Too many evil doers, injustices, and just plain nastyness in this would to suggest to me that someone is watching over us. 

[angel379227]

While I applaud you for your conviction, I have to say that growing up Catholic and then studying branches of Christianity does not mean you understand the religion. You're judging the faith by some of its misguided followers, when the message is one of piousness and love. Bear in mind that I find the beliefs of Christianity positively absurd, but I've seen the results that have come from genuine understanding of the words of Jesus Christ, and I gotta say he deserves better than to have some whelp like you goin around acting like you understand. Go study some more and put that fiery spirit of yours to good use, cause as it is now, your tirade is just as bad as I've seen from many a bible-thumper. Be better than that.

[Keiva]

I see much more judgment in your post than in Kymberli's. You're ASSuming a lot to assume she's not educated about the subject.

[walksalone11]

You have said a few things here that caught my attention, I am not a all surprised......we should talk.

[StaciLyn1988]

When I was in school with cousin she would always say that if I don't think god is real I am going to hell and I said whatever and will never believe and she is still out there trying to get everyone she knows the believe in god well I am not saying god is not real I will never believe it till I see god.. I don't believe in heaven or hell.

[angel379227]

I see much more judgment in your post than in Kymberli's. You're ASSuming a lot to assume she's not educated about the subject.

Her education is irrelevant. We're talking about her understanding of the faith she's slandering, and in that aspect I know she is severely lacking. I've seen many spiritual infants with her same rage and misguided preconceptions. You don't have to be a wizard to see her perception of Christianity has been tainted by a Catholic upbringing and bible-thumping hypocrites.

And you don't have to slyly call me an *bleep* by using play-on-words. I'm not the one throwing dirt in people's eyes here.

[walksalone11]

I see much more judgment in your post than in Kymberli's. You're ASSuming a lot to assume she's not educated about the subject.

Her education is irrelevant. We're talking about her understanding of the faith she's slandering, and in that aspect I know she is severely lacking. I've seen many spiritual infants with her same rage and misguided preconceptions. You don't have to be a wizard to see her perception of Christianity has been tainted by a Catholic upbringing and bible-thumping hypocrites.

And you don't have to slyly call me an *bleep* by using play-on-words. I'm not the one throwing dirt in people's eyes here.

Can you describe your understanding of Pope Innocence xiv? and the doctrine he is most notable for?....being the xtian scholar and all that you are, you kno?

[angel379227]

I'm not surprised that you would mock me, Walksalone, as people insecure in their spirituality are often and generally aggressive to anyone with a different viewpoint, but I respect your right as an American to freedom of speech. Mock on, brother, but try to keep your arguments relative to the topic at hand. Christianity ("xtian", really?) did not originate with the pope and they are less representatives of the-- ahem-- "xtian" faith as they are spiritual leaders. If you want to truly understand something, you have to first consider its source rather than just its results.

I actually think that Catholicism has done more to cripple our understanding of Christianity than any other "denomination" or offshoot of the religion, so you and I may have something in common yet.

[AmyTrivitt]

To each there own. Im actually proud of you for speaking your mind. There are alot of doubts in the bible, that is why it was man made. I too do not think someone will judge us as we die. Don't let the minds of others speaking on here tear your spirit down. This is human we do not all act the same, dress the same nor do we believe or think the same. I think people are afraid of a thinking mind. And furthermore your comments on Christianity and all other religion is to the point, if you do not believe in THEIR religion you are going to hell, I say to those there must be alot of hell's out there as believe system changes in terms of god everywhere. I too do not think people should judge others but the people who believe in some of these religions do. As my husband puts it, they should read their bible more and be at peace with themselves before they judge on others. My husband beliefs in god, though he does not go to church. As he again puts it, you do not need a big room to pray amongst others that turn around and are hypocritical about half the stuff they preach and pray about to be close and fell a certain degree of closeness with god. Yes I married a man who beliefs in god, yes he knows I do not believe in hes god and has since day one when we started dating, Does he have a problem with it NO. Actually he has more respect for me in this category for when a person brings up the topic he politely says this is not something my wife likes hearing those talk about. Bottom line is what you believe is yours whether there is a god or not. No one should bash this person or anyone else by saying she is going to hell. Nobody and I mean NOBODY not even my husband knows what will happen after we pass. As for most there are theories but not facts.

[walksalone11]

I'm not surprised that you would mock me, Walksalone, as people insecure in their spirituality are often and generally aggressive to anyone with a different viewpoint, but I respect your right as an American to freedom of speech. Mock on, brother, but try to keep your arguments relative to the topic at hand. Christianity ("xtian", really?) did not originate with the pope and they are less representatives of the-- ahem-- "xtian" faith as they are spiritual leaders. If you want to truly understand something, you have to first consider its source rather than just its results.

I actually think that Catholicism has done more to cripple our understanding of Christianity than any other "denomination" or offshoot of the religion, so you and I may have something in common yet.

***shudders at the thought***

[queenofnines]

Congrats, Kymberli, for having the courage to DO THE RESEARCH and pull yourself away from a life of delusion and non-thinking.  I have also been where you've been, foremost not being raised a Christian but then point-blank choosing to give religion a try after a dramatic life event I encountered.  I was a "true" Christian for 5 years before I finally decided to do some research on the matter, and was shocked when I discovered solid evidence against the existence of any sort of god.  Shocked because I truly had bought into the delusion of god like the next guy, but now I had found clear evidence that it's all a sham.

Most people "need" to believe in fairytales because they're too scared of death and the fact that the only purpose life has is the purpose you make for yourself.

http://www.godisimaginary.com/ - may sound like a silly name, but it has killer proofs that blow the deity daddy right out of the sky.

[angel379227]

I was a "true" Christian for 5 years before I finally decided to do some research on the matter, and was shocked when I discovered solid evidence against the existence of any sort of god.  Shocked because I truly had bought into the delusion of god like the next guy, but now I had found clear evidence that it's all a sham.

This is just as ludicrous as claiming there's solid evidence to support the existence of God. You girls are so full of self-righteousness-- it's quite am using, really. You've succeeded in becoming everything you supposedly detest.

[jongarton]

The ONLY true way to KNOW that there is a "GOD" is to have experienced death and have sat next to said being! Which I think would actually be IMPOSSIBLE unless you are believing in other forms of religion which as a christian you are not supposed to do! I am not saying there is a heaven or a HELL but I am reserving my oppinion for greater judgment! If you ARE truly a christian and from what I have read so far most who agree to disagree are! the bible says not to judge so ALL of you can be hypocritical if you want but know in your heart and mind if you judge You WILL BE DELT WITH ACCORDINGLY!

[Shutmeup3030150]

I completely agree with you, I'm an atheist, and I can't stand all the religious bullshit there is on these boards. I don't go around screamin about bein an atheist, so why should they be bombarding the boards with their god bullshit?

[tzs]

Hey, aren't we all here to make money and be happy??? Religion is a tough subject, it seems to bring out the best and the worst in people, but it shouldn't divide you into groups. I'm not religious myself, but if you are nice to me, it really doesn't matter if you are religious or not. I think Knowing yourself is the most important thing.....