I do NOT believe in god

[tzs]

How can that dude reference Notorious BIG for a religious debate??? He's running out of things to say maybe? Who does that??
What a NERD!!!!!!!!

P.S. sorry, "nerd" is my favorite word at the time, because I am one!! He gets a "religious debate reference-FAIL"

P.S.S. Falconer02, you're posts are very honest, can't wait to hear more!  Thank you for being real!!! 

[tzs]

Don't be upset God, I still   you and believe in you.

OH yes, and posting a sexy woman written in letters in a debate forum about god really depicts how strong your religious beliefs are!!!!
GET
A
GRIP!
because you are grip-less!!!!

[Falconer02]

P.S.S. Falconer02, you're posts are very honest, can't wait to hear more!  Thank you for being real!!! 

No prob. Right back at ya. I'm a nerd too.

OH yes, and posting a sexy woman written in letters in a debate forum about god really depicts how strong your religious beliefs are!!!!

I would suggest not even bothering with this user. You'll type paragraphs of explanations and they'll fly right over her head. I'm sure the majority in these argumentative threads would agree.

[Falconer02]

It's not over my head but I will choose to believe what I want and you won't change what I believe. I don't care how much you post. Writing to me is a waste of your time because I won't chage my beliefs.

See what I mean? You're playing the victim card now for no reason at all.

[tzs]

Flying WAY over her head!   That's so funny!!!!  Reading her posts make my head hurt! Thanks for the advice Falconer02,  It definitely does'nt make sense to keep replying to her posts, she really does'nt understand the word "debate" very well, nor does she post very much relevant content!!! She should also understand that I don't want to change her, she's going down all on her own, and it won't be pretty.....but it will be amusing.........

-HA HA HA!!!!!!:wave:

[Falconer02]

If God was so awful then it doesn't seem like people care to much, so I am not  sure why they act like they do.

Because they still believe in these personalized gods which effects their reasoning skills. These skills, when amplified into crowds with the same beliefs, can alter a logical conclusion for the worse and hurt societies progression and/or knowledge of reality. See: Galileo Galilei

You've pretty much answered your own question judging from the two pictures you've posted.

[tzs]

But yet life is great, so great that people continue wanting to live and make babies. Makes perfect sense! If God was so awful then it doesn't seem like people care to much, so I am not  sure why they act like they do.

IGNORANCE at it's best!

You make absolutely NO SENSE at all. Guess what? Life is great, without the existense of God. Also, no one here said that your "God" was awful, I just don't recognize him as a tangible being, therefore I do not believe in the story of his exsistence. Do you know what the word Tangible means?

Without religion, I have been in this world for 32 years, I have a wonderful husband, and we have a beautiful daughter together. We have never spent a day in church in our lives together, yet we are extremely happy together-and Oh yea-We made baby, and still want to make more. Figured I would come down to your level of reasoning, even though its absolutely ubsurd, just to get my point across.  Also, to bring back something you wrote in a previous post, you stated that "God kind of Sucks", did you not? WTF!
The point is this, post something intelligent next time, and don't go surfing on the internet and upload content to answer our post in this forum-back it up what you think, not with the words of some random-yahoo author!

Grip-less!!!!!!!!!

[Falconer02]

The reality is this, take God out of Reality and you end up with a messed up Christmas I mean Life.

[xdrummermommyx]

Alright, I don't believe in Jesus or "God" either.
But I don't see why posting this.
I'm a pagan though..

[tzs]

Alright, I don't believe in Jesus or "God" either.
But I don't see why posting this.
I'm a pagan though..

  Because it's feaking funny and this is a religious debate and discuss thread!!!!!
Welcome! Tell us about your Pagan faith, it sounds interesting, I don't really know much about it.......

[apples45]

Ok just for the record I'm scared to respond to this topic, but I will anyway, because I've always been curious about atheist and, so please dont get mad ok I want to ask if atheist celebrate holidays this is probably a stupid question but I honestly dont know much about atheist and I just want to learn thats all so please enlighten me about this.

[queenofnines]

Ok just for the record I'm scared to respond to this topic, but I will anyway, because I've always been curious about atheist and, so please dont get mad ok I want to ask if atheist celebrate holidays this is probably a stupid question but I honestly dont know much about atheist and I just want to learn thats all so please enlighten me about this.

Why are you scared?  Atheists are nice people, so long as whoever we're talking with isn't spewing ignorance.  If you're open-minded and eager for education, we're here to help.

In answer to your question, I would guess a lot of atheists continue to celebrate whatever holidays they did before due to family pressure, for their kids, or they personally enjoy the holiday.  They would simply celebrate whatever holiday in a more secular nature (i.e., not go to church).

I personally have stopped celebrating all holidays as of a few years ago.  I did this because: 1) all holidays are rooted in ridiculous religious traditions and contain many pagan customs (just do the research!)  2) the "major" ones like Christmas and Easter support Christianity/a belief in god  3) I don't have kids, so what's the point of celebrating something like Halloween and  4) I'm no longer a kid, and doing the same tired traditions for X number of years in a row gets old.  I don't need a routine date to look forward to on my calendar for my life to be interesting or purposeful.  I do much bigger things - like travel the world - that gives me something to look forward to.

My biggest beef is with Christmas.  I think that is the absolute worst one of them all.  The obvious Jesus factor aside, I hate how commercialized it is and the sick "obligation" everyone has for buying presents for people that they don't bother to care for with gifts any other time of the year (you know, true thoughtfulness).  I've worked at places during the holidays where I was appalled to see so many people being smug with themselves for buying the absolute cheapest sh*t they could find for someone on their list, proving they were simply going through the motions rather than genuinely caring.  Many people would also buy such cheap crap in July and tell me they're "saving" it for Christmas.

I'm not a materialistic person and can afford to get whatever I want on a daily basis.  I don't need people giving me crap I don't need or want, and I don't want to give them crap they don't need or want, which is another reason I'm glad I don't celebrate Christmas.  I am debt-, stress-, and obligation-free on a seasonal basis.  

[queenofnines]

But yet life is great, so great that people continue wanting to live and make babies. Makes perfect sense!

It's called our genes.  Our genes force the majority of us to survive and reproduce.  Life is NOT great for millions of people, but because our genes are so powerful, most of us are scared to die and will press on living a sh*tty life because that's all we have.

[queenofnines]

What are we progressing to? We will still die, we won't remember we lived, we will never see loved ones again. We can't live forever in the flesh even if it was possible because that would be HELL considering the universe is like a Rubberband, it will snap back.

We'd be progressing to a lack of atrocities committed in the name of religion, most significantly.  We'd be able to channel this new found time and energy without religion into improving/extending the life of all people.

Reality sucks and it is almost like you have to forget and put it in the back of your mind if you want to be happy while alive.

EXACTLY.  Or you could come up with some god to numb yourself to this truth.

I can't help it, I don't understand how people can smile being an atheist. I would like to remember I lived.

How can you remember you lived once your brain stops functioning?  What will it matter that you lived once you're gone forever?  Just enjoy life while you're alive, simple as that.  Be famous, pass on your genes, or erect a tombstone when you die if you want to be remembered for living a little while longer after you die.

It's just hard for me to understand how you wouldn't get depressed. I get depressed not scared that there is no God.

Yes, to be honest with you, it CAN be depressing at times that this whole circus we call life is POINTLESS.  I myself get pretty angry sometimes at how stupid so many people are and how serious they treat things which are completely MEANINGLESS.  But you make your own purpose, and I'm personally here to have a good time while it lasts.  I think many people WOULDN'T be able to go on without a god, and this is perhaps why it is hardwired in our brains to invent such things.  It's to the benefit of our genes; it's a survival mechanism.

The reality is this, take God out of Reality and you end up with a messed up Christmas I mean Life.

Nah, I think most people would have a BETTER life when they realize each of us only gets 70 or so years.  They would hopefully treat their fellow man better so as not to impose on another's brief stint with conscious happiness.  They would not *bleep*-foot around when it comes to their dreams and goals under the excuse that if they don't fulfill their dreams, at least a heaven awaits them.

[queenofnines]

Atheists don't believe there is a God. They believe in everything Scientists come up with. They are the type that believe the world is Flat until one day oops it's round.

Atheists don't believe there are ANY gods, plural.  Christians are atheists, too, when it comes to Zeus, Ra, Vishnu, Allah, Krishna, etc. etc. 

Scientists do not "come up with" stuff.  Everything is thoroughly tested and observed, and you have to credit science to EVERY modern technology you take advantage of in your life.

The Bible says the earth is flat, so I don't know why you chose that as an example.  Science continues to improve and update its theories and recognize when it's wrong.  It doesn't settle on a talking snake, forbidden fruit, virgin birth, eternal torture chamber, etc. etc. as the final stance on "reality".