I do NOT believe in god

[queenofnines]

Everybody is entitle to their own opinion, I love Free will.

Hah, guess you've never heard of determinism.  But that is an entirely different issue, even more grave than the non-existence of god...

[beams]

Christians are humans we make mistakes just like everyone esle.  We do wrong we have to go to the Father and ask forgivness. Peope watch others and see how they live, some times it effects there way of doing if they see people that supose to live right. If they are doing that then why should I try 2 be like that.
I am A christian not a perfect 1! I admit that  Each day is a challenge for me SO is it for you or not
   and  to us ALL 

[queenofnines]

Outside of the bible, God is the unexplained component of science. Take the theory of evolution. Evolution can only go back so far. Once you get down to the atom there is a pausing point. Where did the atom come from? Why does the interaction between molecules exist? What causes it? I am no physicist, but the question remains. What about before? This is where God comes into play. God may be different for many people, but the fact that there is SOMETHING is not arguable.

Just because science hasn't answered certain things does not discount the very plausible reality that one day it will.  Saying it's god for the things that we don't have the answers to yet is very poor logic indeed.  Physical laws can exist "just because" just as you claim god can exist "just because", and it's a thousand times more rational to look at scientific EVIDENCE and have the courage to admit everything was and is possible without a god.  God is a cop-out to the reality you're all too scared to admit.

[acurtsinger2]

For those who beleive, no proof is needed.  For those who do not, there never is enough proof.

[mandysstore86]

if god was not real then why is the earth so pretty and why does the bible make so much sense. i do believe and i think he is real and i know he is real . i think everything adds up to something bigger than humans can understand. including the perception of 2012. 

Education has absolutely nothing to do with a person's belief. What I will say is that everyone has their own beliefs whether it is about something trivial or something as large as religion. If a person chooses not to believe in God, that is their choice and even if I believe in God, which I do, that does not give me the right to condemn them in any way. We walk around trying to judge each other and for what, because the Bible clearly says, "thou shalt not judge". My belief as well as many christians in the world is that God has the final say, so trying to Make a person see things our way is not following that belief. Let God have the final say and treat that person with respect in the meantime.

I agree to a point. How is trying to make others believe not treating a person with respect. The only time this is not respect is when you try to force it.

[clusf]

There is no hard/real evidence that a god exists.
Same goes for souls and the afterlife.
People believe such things because they were either taught to at a young age, or if they had a traumatic experience so they latched onto a religion because the fantastic promises helps to ease their pain.

[Falconer02]

According to your own definition, the Bible does not subjugate people to slavery. As far as not following the rules it's the same as laws in society. For example: if you murder someone then by mortal law you will go to jail or possibly the death penalty. You will also be punished by God for breaking his commandments. When you are young and you tell a lie and your parents catch you you are punished. These are all things that are in the Bible. Would you call mortals slaves to the Government? We still have a choice to do wrong, but we will be punished if we do wrong. This is the SAME concept as the Bible.

The bible subjegates people to slavery in both the old and new testament. And we as mortals tend to get far more technical and educated in our laws (I speak of more than just the 10 commandments like I said earlier). Quick example- 500 years ago you would be killed for being a homosexual. The bible speaks negatively of gays. Today it's actually starting be accepted because we've researched the aspects of it and find nothing too abnormal with that behavior. Gays are (usually) good people just as straights are or aren't. Laws are in place to defend gay rights. Gay marriage is slowly becoming a normal occurance. But by the Christian gods standards it's wrong. So if I defend gay rights and good people, I will be punished by god. There's a huge moral gray-area here...I have the right to choose to not follow the Christian law and be sent to hell or I could conform to the law. Just as a slave may run from his plantation and be shot or conform and do the masters bidding (I know I know...extreme example).

I would also venture to say mortals are slaves to their governments. Slavery exists today all over the place in different ways-- the definition of slave can be jolted around in this argument though so I really don't want to go too far into it. I'll start to sound emo with all my "conformist" talk.

Looks like the Virgin Mary to me!

Looks like the visible spectrum to me. If it moved like a human and spoke with no logical explanation to it, I may think it is. But this is on par with believing thunder is actually angels bowling above the clouds. I once thought I saw Giygas from Earthbound in a church window caused by the same thing.

God is a cop-out to the reality you're all too scared to admit

There is no hard/real evidence that a god exists.
Same goes for souls and the afterlife.
People believe such things because they were either taught to at a young age, or if they had a traumatic experience so they latched onto a religion because the fantastic promises helps to ease their pain.

I would say this defines atheism well. Nicely said.

[Lovely_Deception]

The bible subjegates people to slavery in both the old and new testament. And we as mortals tend to get far more technical and educated in our laws (I speak of more than just the 10 commandments like I said earlier). Quick example- 500 years ago you would be killed for being a homosexual. The bible speaks negatively of gays. Today it's actually starting be accepted because we've researched the aspects of it and find nothing too abnormal with that behavior. Gays are (usually) good people just as straights are or aren't. Laws are in place to defend gay rights. Gay marriage is slowly becoming a normal occurance. But by the Christian gods standards it's wrong. So if I defend gay rights and good people, I will be punished by god. There's a huge moral gray-area here...I have the right to choose to not follow the Christian law and be sent to hell or I could conform to the law. Just as a slave may run from his plantation and be shot or conform and do the masters bidding (I know I know...extreme example).

I would also venture to say mortals are slaves to their governments. Slavery exists today all over the place in different ways-- the definition of slave can be jolted around in this argument though so I really don't want to go too far into it. I'll start to sound emo with all my "conformist" talk.

The law says we must tolerate homosexuals, not defend and support them. There is no moral-gray area because you can refuse to support it but still tolerate it.

The reason I believe the Bible speaks against homosexual relationship because it goes against nature. A man and man cannot make a child nor can a woman and a woman. God wants us to continue our species, and the only way to do this is through intercourse between a man and woman.  v

If you believe government is our master and we are slaves then going by that definition slavery is a good thing...

[Falconer02]

The law says we must tolerate homosexuals, not defend and support them. There is no moral-gray area because you can refuse to support it but still tolerate it.

The reason I believe the Bible speaks against homosexual relationship because it goes against nature. A man and man cannot make a child nor can a woman and a woman. God wants us to continue our species, and the only way to do this is through intercourse between a man and woman.  v

If you believe government is our master and we are slaves then going by that definition slavery is a good thing...

You're right about the tolerating thing-- I made a mistake on that. But our laws defend the basic rights of homosexuals. But I feel you jumped over what I was trying to say because I meant if an individual wants to support gays because they are decent people but his religion says otherwise...there's the gray area.

Homosexuality does not go against nature as it is constantly observed in nature. Granted it is abnormal weighed against heterosexuality, but it's not damaging the natural system of things. Everyone is not 'going to go gay' suddenly which will lead us into extinction. Coupled with the problem of over-population in parts of the world, adoption agencies desperately trying to find stable couples, and the lack of food and resources to go around, I do not understand why it's looked at as such an abomination. This is a perfect example of an outdated law that has people preaching hatred, death, and eternal damnation towards couples that love eachother. How Christian. Our culture needs to get passed these old silly laws despite what their jealous god says.

As far as government = slavery, it really depends on peoples opinions on their governing systems. Some may see it as freedom, some may see it as "the man constantly keepin' me down!" Like I said, the term slavery can be tilted a lot of ways in this type of argument so that's why I didn't want to go into it.

[walksalone11]

There are many Cultures, including mine, who not only tolerate two spirits(gays) but have great admiration and respect for them. It is said that just as not just anyone is going to be a spiritual leader(medicine person) neither is just anyone going to be two spirit.
One does not become a Spiritual Leader nor does on become two spirit, either you are or you aren't.
It is a belief that two spirits have a deeper connecting with the spirit world and there for a heightened more enlightened Spirituality.

Christian dogma is just goofy........

[queenofnines]

For those who beleive, no proof is needed.  For those who do not, there never is enough proof.

You're right about the first part, but not about the latter. 

Those who believe are content to stop thinking for themselves because god satisfies their darkest fears of purposelessness and death.  Too bad we invented him.

[queenofnines]

if god was not real then why is the earth so pretty and why does the bible make so much sense. i do believe and i think he is real and i know he is real . i think everything adds up to something bigger than humans can understand. including the perception of 2012.  

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and just because one interprets something as beautiful does not mean there's proof for a god.  Humans are still capable of interpreting things as beautiful or ugly, regardless of their origin.

If you think the Bible makes sense, you must be one of those Christians who hasn't actually read it.  I bet your knowledge of the Bible is limited to the "feel-good" parts you're told at church.  If you actually sit down and read it all the way through for a change, one of two things will happen: you'll either make excuses for the fairytale stories, god murdering everyone, and the ridiculous and useless laws, or you'll dare to think - even for a moment - that the stuff you are reading is kind of F*ed up and may say to yourself, why do my fellow Christians ignore how F*ed up the Bible is?

As for 2012...oh boy I hope you don't believe in that, too.

[jordandog]

What exactly happened to make you change your mind???  Is this an emotional or educational decision??? No matter what religion I am, I'm very strong to point out that we are all responsible for our own destinies....

Very good point made right there. Whether you believe in God or not, I don't believe any of us can argue that we were all given the 'power' of choice and therefore DO determine our own destinies. I realize a lot of things happen in life that are completely out of our control, but I have no tolerance for those people who are always the victim. If you want to get honest, take a look at something 'bad' that has happened to you and I think you will most likely find some contribution YOU made to the bad outcome.
I am not a religious person in the formal sense of what that entails ie church, organized thoughts on deities, etc., but I am a spiritual person and believe we are all connected in some way. I have no fear of death (ask me about that when it's knocking on my door ), but I DO fear the day is coming when virtually no one will give a rat's patootie about anyone other than themselves and THAT scares the h*ll out of me!

[Falconer02]

I can't wait till you meet God and feel stupid.

Shut up, troll. Go back under your bridge.

[tholl01]

Well I do believe in a god...but i guess you have the right to your opinion.