I THINK GOD AND HIS SON ALL REAL WHAT YALL THINK?

[cowgirlx]

In conclusion: If you want to be in god's favor don't "cheat" on him, however you can be in God's good graces again if you show remorse.

Who is man to deem which faith is worthy of God? You're assuming an awful lot if you believe your 100 year old religion is the ultimate authority in spiritual truth.

And to that tl;dr post above Falconer...uh, wut.

Clue#1:  Antichrist

1 John 2:22(NWT) 22  Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one that denies the Father and the Son.

O.O.........my name is John......I know I'm #1 because everyone keeps holding up one finger to me.....and my PObox # is 222!!!!!
OH MY GAWD!!!!

LMAO

[angel379227]

Infantile posting by our resident Native American youth, just another day.

[teflonfanatic]

I follow the bible as my holy book and I try to let it shape what I do and think.  Should I study with someone of a different faith which i'm i'll end up doing eventually i'll compare texts but until then I go by the "inspired word of god" written by 40 men.  Relying on my own understanding is a recipe for disaster look what happened to eve, solomon, adam etc. Are we any different?

[angel379227]

Relying on my own understanding is a recipe for disaster look what happened to eve, solomon, adam etc. Are we any different?

While these are some examples of humans that sought their own understanding of God and failed, I can likewise provide many other names of individuals that did so and succeeded, by their own estimation. The prophet Mohammed, Siddhartha Guatama, Martin Luther....Charles Russell. So yes, I would say we are all different.

[dijonworks]

Wow I love all these topics too see how differents ones think and reason,  i just like to keep it simple. 
look at creation if there's creation there had to have been a creator
I look at the human body how well it was designed, had to have a designer, I wasn't here 2000 yrs ago, but whoa just look at the evidence

[queenofnines]

look at creation if there's creation there had to have been a creator
I look at the human body how well it was designed, had to have a designer, I wasn't here 2000 yrs ago, but whoa just look at the evidence

Wow.  You obviously haven't done your homework.

[kenrachel1993]

they are very real . only i had to do a few faceplants in the mud before i opened my eyes , ears and heart. thats called freewill and no other creature on earth has it !!

[queenofnines]

thats called freewill and no other creature on earth has it !!

You don't have freewill if you believe in god because he already knows everything you're going to do; it's already decided.  Unless you don't think he's omniscient.

[teflonfanatic]

Yeah he knows what where going to do and not do(he knows both sides of courses we take good and bad) but that doesn't mean he's predestined us. It's still freewill if we want to believe in him(faith) and serve him(works).

[Falconer02]

Yeah he knows what where going to do and not do(he knows both sides of courses we take good and bad

This is predestination since your god knows what path you will take.

but that doesn't mean he's predestined us

You just spelled it out though.

It's still freewill if we want to believe in him(faith) and serve him(works).

It's really not. This sounds like delusional slavery.

[queenofnines]

God knows what we will do before we do it but we don't. It is our choice, it is our freewill.

Just like **he knew** Eve would eat the fruit.  It's his fault the world is full of bad things because he put the dominoes in place for it to happen.  You don't put a loaded gun in a baby's playpen and then get mad at the baby when it shoots it's foot.  Perfect analogy.

God doesn't make us do anything because we have a choice.

Yeah but if you don't kiss his *bleep*, he'll torture you forever.  That's a great god you're worshiping.

[queenofnines]

God doesn't make us do anything because we have a choice.

We've already been over how it's a logical fallacy that it happened in the first place (you can't know something is wrong before you have the knowledge that is wrong).  In any event, why should we have to be punished for something our ancestors did?  That's not fair.  We know it's silly for say, African Americans today to demand to be paid reparations for their ancestors who were slaves.  You can't refer to something in the past when it comes to things like that.

You also have the problem of why did he need to have the tree in the garden in the first place?  He KNEW we would fail, unless he is not omniscient.  Why did he allow the serpent in there?  And once the fruit has hit the fan, why does the extent of evil have to be SO bad?  If god is all-powerful, certainly he could be in control of things to the point that we'd still see sin's effects without needing such a large degree of suffering.  And again, this whole sin bit does not account for natural disasters. 

Also the whole "sacrificing himself to himself because of the sh*tty creation and rules he made" is just weird.  It wasn't really a "sacrifice" because he was god; he knew he would be okay once he kicked it.

All of this doesn't make sense until you realize there is no god.

God isn't how you are making him out to be. Just because you don't worship him and believe in him, doesn't mean you get a free ticket into heaven or make God cease to exist.

Read your whole Bible and you'll see god is the worst tyrannical monster man has ever known.  And no, I'm not going to heaven, nor is anyone else.  Some "god" may exist, but it is certainly not the one that is defined so laughably well like in the Bible or Koran.  And thank the FSM for that!

[queenofnines]

How are we being punished?

Uh, I was referring to hell.  Being sent to hell because we are born scumbags thanks to those two people who F-ed it up for everybody.  That's what your god says.

Because we have to die? Or just die in that way? We have to work? Childbirth in pain? I really don't think these are some awful punishments from my point of view.

Start watching the news or crack open a history book.  Such plights are due to sin, no?

Childbirth in pain, well I never had a kid but there is an epideral.

INTERESTING.  So why did you fraud Fusion Cash back when they had the Mother's Day promotion?  It's so funny, I figured those weren't your kids back when you did that because there were many clues surrounding it.  Word of advice: think twice before you lie again, because smart people can easily see through you.

[teflonfanatic]

"Learnt" people really need to get answers to their questions they're not wrong in what they say or ask they're just missing answers. Unforunately even if they get the answers they need they may not realize it right away

[tuyetmai]

I really think they're God who created us!