What are your Views On abortion(topic is moreso for women)

[thanhkle2003]

In general, I think that no one should really have a say in the choice of a woman. This goes to all the females out there who feels that they are making a difference in this world by casting judgment on the others. If the decision should be left to "you" then you can say and do what is best for you. It's far easier to say what we preceive to be the right things when we are not going through it. Besides, is it better for women to have their babies even though they can't take care of them? I"m not saying that I would have an abortion, but I do respect the "personal" choices of other people ( it's not of my business to begin with).

I know that the argument of whether it's truly killing a life, however, we should not judge. I believe those who choose to have abortions will pay their dues somehow and someway, but they owe nothing to the rest of us whom are just here on the same ranking.

[liljp617]

I do not believe in abortion, but to each their own.  No one can every convence me that at the beginning of the preganacy that the baby is not a baby.  I watch my little boy when I was 10 weeks preganent and at the beginning of the ultrasound he was asleep and sucking his thumb.  After that he woke up he spread out his arms and legs and you could see all of the his fingers and toes.  It was absolutely amazing.  I do not understand how anyone could kill an innocent child, granted there are some situations that you need to question weather an abortion would be okay, but I do not feel that is right for someone to just get rid of it because they don't want the responsibility, there are couples everyday that would love to adopt a child.

It is an embryo/fetus.  You can call it a baby as much as you want, but it's like calling a toad a frog.  A toad simply is not a frog, as an embryo/fetus just simply is not a baby.  They're two different words with different meanings and it serves no purpose to use them interchangeably.  All it does is cause confusion in the debate.

Again there were over 500,000 children up for adoption in 2008 in the US alone and, on average, a little over 100,000 get adopted yearly.  If people want to adopt, there are certainly ample number of kids available.

The baby's heartbeat starts at 4 weeks pregnant and the brain is developed at 3 weeks - So think about it.

I'm not really following how this makes a fetus a person.  Could you explain?


As a side note, the brain is certainly not fully developed at 3 weeks.  At 3 weeks, it has just started to develop.  I don't know if that's what you meant or not.

It is living, it has a heartbeat

Nobody said it wasn't alive.  A lot of things are alive and I'm sure you don't think a millisecond about killing them.  I asked what makes it a person; having a heartbeat doesn't make something a person.

It is a developing person

I would replace "developing" with "potential."

[Falconer02]

I think it should be against the law to have sex if your not married and you will do jail time if you do. That should help with the abortion and unwanted pregancies a little

I giggled like a little school girl when I read this. Liljp...you're arguing with someone who thinks this is a legit way to end abortions...let her baste in her own delusions.

[kirbymiester]

I think it should be against the law to have sex if your not married and you will do jail time if you do. That should help with the abortion and unwanted pregancies a little.

While that's a good concept in theory, people will find ways to get around it. It'll be like doing drugs, except way easier to do. All a law like that would do is fill up jails and cost the government more money, all for something that's not that bad in the first place.

Maybe a fine or something for that "crime," but even then, sex outside of marriage isn't bad at all. In fact, I think no sex before marriage makes for a crappy marriage if you ever do get married.

[Lisawerk]

Whether or not the human life should be considered a 'life' while it's still growing is up for debate.  I do know that legally you can be charged for two murders at some point if you kill a woman while she's pregnant.  Maybe 25 weeks or somewhere around there?  I don't remember exactly.  So the legal aspect of this is not as clear cut as some would think.

The question of when, if it exists, does a soul enter the body is certainly something no one here can answer.  I highly doubt it magically appears as you're coming through the birth canal or being removed via c-section.  So if we do have a soul, it's there during gestation, not just at birth.

I don't think we should be overturning Roe, mainly because it won't stop abortions, it will just stop safe abortions.  Also, if people on both sides put all the energy they used for fighting on working together and helping prevent unwanted pregnancy, we would have a much smaller problem to discuss.  Too many pro-life activists forget that we're talking about a hurting woman with her own life, not just a 'fetus' with a life.  And too many pro-choice activists forget that information breeds confidence.  They need to stop suggesting that we run people through the abortion revolving door without better counseling and intervention.

[dreamyxo]

I think it should be against the law to have sex if your not married and you will do jail time if you do. That should help with the abortion and unwanted pregancies a little.

How do you figure that?  Married couples have unwanted pregnancies too. 

[Gemz09]

taking life always illegal and bad doing as a human

[Kymberli0529]

First, can I just say that I find it absolutely hillarious that many people who have posted here have also posted on the threads that have to do with defending Christianity...I just got a new bible from the Grandmother who is trying to convert me so let me quote.....

Matthew, New Testament........
""Judge not, that you be not judged""
So, if I choose to have one, two, ten abortions every single person with a "christian" heart should and would forgive me and not judge me in the least, not think ill of me, or condemn me for my actions.  So, why are they posting here saying woman choosing to have an abortion are wrong?  Trying to convert them?  Woman who believe in abortions are wrong? Who are you to judge?!

I think woman should be able to have abortions.  It is their body, their life.  Because they got pregnant, that fetus is the ruling factor over the womans life?  Because she is pregnant she has no say over how the next nine months should go?
As many have said, a fetus is a fetus.  There have been scientific studies to determine when a fetus can feel pain, when a fetus has enough brain development to experience fear, etc.  I personally do not believe in later term abortions, half birth abortions, etc.  I would whole heartedly campaign against anyone who could willingly give birth to a child only to have its skull caved in half way through the birthing process.
When the FETUS is nothing more than a bunch of cells, that is fine....no fear, no pain, no nothing.  Not even a baby.
That sounds awful, I know.  I'm a woman and a mother but woman need to have a choice.
Also, all those emails you see about these teeny tiny little babies that have been aborted who are no bigger than a quarter and 'oh poor baby'....those are miscarriages, still births, or preemies.  My aunt is a OB/GYN.  Abortions do not result in 'babies' they are blood and gore, tissue.  You wouldn't be able to look at it and think 'oh thats a baby'
We, as a country, cannot be ruled by religious fanatics.  We need to think about the people and what is best for them.


BTW to the person who wants people to go to jail if they have sex outside of marriage....A. How do you propose to make this work?  A cop in every home?  Big brother and his cameras in every home?
B. Do you have any idea of the amount of people who have children while married that the said child was an accident???
My husband and I being one of them....I am prego with number four...are we happy? YES! but did we want or expect another child? Hell no!

[Kymberli0529]

Also, the law regarding double manslaughter or whatever its called has to do with the age of the fetus and whether it could survive outside the womb or not.  If it cannot and absolutely would not, it isn't counted.

[liljp617]

taking life always illegal

No it's not.  You've killed trillions upon trillions of living organisms today.  Should you to jail?  Please take note of what words you're using (life, baby, fetus, human, person, etc.).

[liljp617]

I do not believe in abortion, but to each their own.  No one can every convence me that at the beginning of the preganacy that the baby is not a baby.  I watch my little boy when I was 10 weeks preganent and at the beginning of the ultrasound he was asleep and sucking his thumb.  After that he woke up he spread out his arms and legs and you could see all of the his fingers and toes.  It was absolutely amazing.  I do not understand how anyone could kill an innocent child, granted there are some situations that you need to question weather an abortion would be okay, but I do not feel that is right for someone to just get rid of it because they don't want the responsibility, there are couples everyday that would love to adopt a child.

It is an embryo/fetus.  You can call it a baby as much as you want, but it's like calling a toad a frog.  A toad simply is not a frog, as an embryo/fetus just simply is not a baby.  They're two different words with different meanings and it serves no purpose to use them interchangeably.  All it does is cause confusion in the debate.

Again there were over 500,000 children up for adoption in 2008 in the US alone and, on average, a little over 100,000 get adopted yearly.  If people want to adopt, there are certainly ample number of kids available.

The baby's heartbeat starts at 4 weeks pregnant and the brain is developed at 3 weeks - So think about it.

I'm not really following how this makes a fetus a person.  Could you explain?


As a side note, the brain is certainly not fully developed at 3 weeks.  At 3 weeks, it has just started to develop.  I don't know if that's what you meant or not.

It is living, it has a heartbeat

Nobody said it wasn't alive.  A lot of things are alive and I'm sure you don't think a millisecond about killing them.  I asked what makes it a person; having a heartbeat doesn't make something a person.

It is a developing person

I would replace "developing" with "potential."

Nope, from the moment of conception it is developing

It is a developing human.  It is a potential person.  Two different things.

[liljp617]

In general, I think that no one should really have a say in the choice of a woman. This goes to all the females out there who feels that they are making a difference in this world by casting judgment on the others. If the decision should be left to "you" then you can say and do what is best for you. It's far easier to say what we preceive to be the right things when we are not going through it. Besides, is it better for women to have their babies even though they can't take care of them? I"m not saying that I would have an abortion, but I do respect the "personal" choices of other people ( it's not of my business to begin with).

I know that the argument of whether it's truly killing a life, however, we should not judge. I believe those who choose to have abortions will pay their dues somehow and someway, but they owe nothing to the rest of us whom are just here on the same ranking.

Please, No one should pass judgment on killers or people that rape either. This is the whole reason we pass judgement, we feel it is WRONG.

If I was the president and you wanted an abortion without a good reason, I would have you fixed. Someone has to protect those developing people if you wont. Is it your personal choice to sleep around and not be ready for a child then abort one because of a mistake? Someone needs to step in because you obviously don't realize what harm you are doing to this developing person.

Thall shall not kill - You Kill Something that has Life - It is a Living thing with a heartbeat. You created it, therefore it is a HUMAN

Yes, it is a personal choice.  If it's not a personal choice, who's choice is it?  It's certainly not the government's choice.  I will never trust those people to determine the morals of society.  Ever.

So you're truly of the opinion that the government has the right -- no scratch that, the duty -- to make personal decisions for people?  Not only make personal decisions for them, but then tie them down and physically force them to "get fixed."  Do you realize how sadistic that is?  Do you know what kinds of governments throughout history attempted to do these things?  Do you know what they all led to?

[liljp617]

I think it should be against the law to have sex if your not married and you will do jail time if you do. That should help with the abortion and unwanted pregancies a little.

This is ridiculous.  If you want to live in a totalitarian nation where the government puts cameras and microphones in every corner of every city (including your home, bathrooms, stores), you're in the wrong place.

I've been asking you this for so long now:  Please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please THINK about the things you post and the complications that would arise from your suggestions.  Please.

[Kymberli0529]

He/She is a "christian" why would they think, they are all sheep who blindly follow the 'word' put in front of them.

[sgluckadoo]

i hate it. i hate it bc i cannot have a child (fertility and health reasons). It isnt fair that people can discard life bc it is an inconvenience to them. I understand those who have been raped and are prgnat. How traumatic it would be to carry a child under those circumstances! Still, I would take it. Anyone who is pregnant right now and doesnt want the baby, i will adopt it!! Been trying to adopt for some time.