State of the Union

[UGetPaid]

I was also wonderin........if the audience all went to the bathroom before Trump came in,would he have gotten less Standing ovations?

What in the holy heck does this even mean?

[JaniceSW]

So I see some on this thread were asking how he lied.  All you have to do is research a variety of sources.  But let me take you through a few.

According to FACTCHECK.ORG:
Trump boasted about the U.S. being the top oil and natural gas producer in the world.  Those achievements, however, occurred years ago or have been expected for a long time.
2. Trump inflated the reduction in food stamp recipients on his watch by including the last several months under president Obama.
3. He exaggerated the number of jobs created under his presidency by starting the clock at his election, and he inflated the manufacturing gain even more.
4. He twice referred to human trafficking to make the case for ending illegal immigration.  However, experts have stated that legal ports are the typical mode of entry in the bulk of cases they deal with foreign nationals.
5. Trump boasted that "more people are working now than at any other time in history-157 million."  That's roughly accurate, but due to population growth, the country has almost continually hit historic employment highs.  Since recovery from the Great recession, the U.S. has been setting new records virtually every month since 2014.

Then, using our governments BUREAU of LABOR STATS:
Trump claims that the economy has grown more under him than any other time.  However, if you go to this site, you can find more economic growth under Jimmy Carter, Kennedy, Johnson, and Clinton.

There is even slower job growth than under Obama.  Compare first 35 months under trump to last 35 months under Obama and it is 227,000 jobs per month under Obama versus 191,000 jobs under Trump.

Real wages, which means they are inflation adjusted is 1.1% under Obama; 0.6% under Trump.

GDP growth measures how everyone is doing and not just the rich.  This is 2.4% under both Trump and Obama.

Job creation is actually just slightly weaker than under Obama.

And we are always measuring from a recession onward as well as 3+ years of Trump as well as 8 years under Obama.

Why does constant exaggeration, lack of transparency, sometimes outright lies, and constant bad-mouthing characterize this administration?  Why can't he act like a mature, grown adult who tries to some degree to bring this country together? Why can't he listen to experts when it is obvious he knows not nearly as much as he always claims? Enough!

[Drutts0643]

I was also wonderin........if the audience all went to the bathroom before Trump came in,would he have gotten less Standing ovations?

What in the holy heck does this even mean?

I know,its almost as ridiculous as the many standing Os he got.

You tend to squirm when holding it in.If they were already relieved they would sit comfy.

[Drutts0643]

So I see some on this thread were asking how he lied.  All you have to do is research a variety of sources.  But let me take you through a few.

According to FACTCHECK.ORG:
Trump boasted about the U.S. being the top oil and natural gas producer in the world.  Those achievements, however, occurred years ago or have been expected for a long time.
2. Trump inflated the reduction in food stamp recipients on his watch by including the last several months under president Obama.
3. He exaggerated the number of jobs created under his presidency by starting the clock at his election, and he inflated the manufacturing gain even more.
4. He twice referred to human trafficking to make the case for ending illegal immigration.  However, experts have stated that legal ports are the typical mode of entry in the bulk of cases they deal with foreign nationals.
5. Trump boasted that "more people are working now than at any other time in history-157 million."  That's roughly accurate, but due to population growth, the country has almost continually hit historic employment highs.  Since recovery from the Great recession, the U.S. has been setting new records virtually every month since 2014.

Then, using our governments BUREAU of LABOR STATS:
Trump claims that the economy has grown more under him than any other time.  However, if you go to this site, you can find more economic growth under Jimmy Carter, Kennedy, Johnson, and Clinton.

There is even slower job growth than under Obama.  Compare first 35 months under trump to last 35 months under Obama and it is 227,000 jobs per month under Obama versus 191,000 jobs under Trump.

Real wages, which means they are inflation adjusted is 1.1% under Obama; 0.6% under Trump.

GDP growth measures how everyone is doing and not just the rich.  This is 2.4% under both Trump and Obama.

Job creation is actually just slightly weaker than under Obama.

And we are always measuring from a recession onward as well as 3+ years of Trump as well as 8 years under Obama.

Why does constant exaggeration, lack of transparency, sometimes outright lies, and constant bad-mouthing characterize this administration?  Why can't he act like a mature, grown adult who tries to some degree to bring this country together? Why can't he listen to experts when it is obvious he knows not nearly as much as he always claims? Enough!

We also put a link up in another topic RE answering how he lied.

Showing proof means nothing to those already with their minds made up.

I still liked what Pelosi did in 1 minute what Trump tried to do in 80 minutes.That EVERYONE will remember!!!

[mrisha]

I've seen some of the Ads of individuals who has thrown their hat into the ring to run for Prez.  I think anyone would be better than the buffoon we currently have in office.

[mrisha]

It was Nancy Pelosi's right to do what she thought was the right thing to do.  She showed how she felt.  Think back 4 years ago when the buffoon in office now intimidating Hillary Clinton in one of their debates.  Remember how he walked back and forth behind her several times. 

[UGetPaid]

It was Nancy Pelosi's right to do what she thought was the right thing to do.  She showed how she felt.  Think back 4 years ago when the buffoon in office now intimidating Hillary Clinton in one of their debates.  Remember how he walked back and forth behind her several times.

You make a very good point.  Walking back and forth behind someone several times is far more obnoxious than ripping a historical document on live television.

[plennis]

I’m not trying to start a major discussion of who will make a better president, and I don’t care who you think will win.  What I want to say is whether you are Republican or Democratic I think Nancy Pelosi is a total disgrace. Whether you like Trump or not, as of now he is president, to rip up his speech immediately after his speech as the cameras were on her was rude, immature, disgusting and totally unacceptable.  She should be called on that.

When an impeached president continues to lie in front of Congress and a national audience, sometimes enough is enough!

  I have to agree enough is enough.  He is an embarrassment, don't forget he did not shake her hand.  He was there to speak at her invitation.

[mardukblood2009]

She just like Donald are suppose to set an example for our country. After she did that, I really realized she needs to be taken out of office just like much of. if not all the idiots down there.

[UGetPaid]

He is an embarrassment, don't forget he did not shake her hand.  He was there to speak at her invitation.

Somebody still needs to explain to me how Trump's failing to shake the hand of someone whose sole purpose in office has been to destroy Trump (and when there is also a very good argument that he never even saw her extend her hand) is a capital offense punishable by death.  Does that mean we can also crucify Liz Warren for refusing to shake Bernie Sanders' hand at the recent Democrat debate, or does she get an automatic pass because she isn't a Republican?


Yet Nancy ripping up the speech that congratulates and praises many brave and worthy Americans, but given by someone that she hates, is absolutely and without question excusable and her right to do.


This mentality is the epitome of Orange Man Bad/ Trump Derangement Syndrome/ but Democrats can never do anything wrong. If I am wrong in my assessment, for the love of God can Somebody please put it into other terms that I can understand.


 

[aflyingmonkey]

What's wrong with Nancy Pelosi's teeth-do they not fit or what is the problem going on there, & why does she talk to herself?   Weird.