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vp44

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Polygamy
« on: February 09, 2014, 09:55:02 am »
Why do some Religions think this okay, but yet are against abortion. Yes I know one is having many wives and other is aborting a fetus. Yes some will say there is a difference but at same time hypocrites are those who think polygamy is okay and the other is murder but yet both are none of any body business. People choose to do what they want to do. Please no bible verses on this and but actual thoughts from your own mind of how one feel. Do not say well the word Religion was said and why not have a bible verse I am talking about people are so hard core religion geeks that can not see past Religion and just have a personal thought.

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Re: Polygamy
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2014, 02:20:19 pm »
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Why do some Religions think this okay, but yet are against abortion.

These are actually 2 completely separate aspects that don't really align. Polygamy and Abortion have their own rules per society- religions of those societies just like to say they have such things lasso'd. Realistically both have to do with love, family, power, traditions, and financial situations though. And you'd be right- it's really none of a persons business unless it's directly effecting them.

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Do not say well the word Religion was said and why not have a bible verse I am talking about people are so hard core religion geeks that can not see past Religion and just have a personal thought.

Illiteracy, lack of an education, laziness, and fear are the primary reasons people can't critically think due to religious control methods. This is unfortunately a terrible forum to have these types of discussions on since the majority seem to be uneducated religious zealots that talk-the-talk but don't walk-the-walk.
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Re: Polygamy
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2014, 02:42:20 pm »
I know 1 thing...those that obey and LOVE Jehovah....or as you would say,Walk the walk...have less heartache and a better conscience!And they also know if they err from human imperfection they know they have a helper in Jesus sacrifice!!

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Re: Polygamy
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2014, 09:54:48 am »
Well It is affirmed that none can stand beside each other! Divided we fall United we stand. 
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Re: Polygamy
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2014, 08:49:32 pm »
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I know 1 thing...those that obey and LOVE Jehovah....or as you would say,Walk the walk...have less heartache and a better conscience!

This would be typical JW propaganda that's a simple ruse. Divorce rates among JW's are the same rate (actually a bit higher) as everywhere else in the world. Retention rates are one of the highest of any religion out there (only 37% stay in), and I've personally seen a mass amount of people leave that religion myself. And it's always the same reason- unhappiness with the people and the religion.

I know you're not a supporter of facts, but you can help others out by at least attempting to tell the truth like a good christian should.

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/divorce.php

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nd they also know if they err from human imperfection they know they have a helper in Jesus sacrifice!!

This is about polygamy. Not your religious/biblical belief system.

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Re: Polygamy
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2014, 08:53:22 pm »
Falconer.....stop trying to convince yourself in front of me and walk your own walk...watch out for the cracks in the sidewalk!!! <chuckle>

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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2014, 09:01:39 pm »
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Falconer.....stop trying to convince yourself in front of me and walk your own walk...watch out for the cracks in the sidewalk!!! <chuckle>

If you're unwilling to learn, then you're on the wrong part of the forum.

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Re: Polygamy
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2014, 09:10:30 pm »
No matter what part of forum id be on..........youd make it your business to find me!!

Thats 99%......hahahaha

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Re: Polygamy
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2014, 09:34:48 pm »
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No matter what part of forum id be on..........youd make it your business to find me!!

Thats 99%......hahahaha

...I'm sure you didn't notice I posted first...
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Re: Polygamy
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2014, 12:36:26 pm »
Why do some Religions think this okay, but yet are against abortion. Yes I know one is having many wives and other is aborting a fetus. Yes some will say there is a difference but at same time hypocrites are those who think polygamy is okay and the other is murder but yet both are none of any body business. People choose to do what they want to do.

I'm confused... Are you actually saying that murder is not anybody's business?! That people can do whatever they want to do, even if it infringes on someone else's rights (esp. their right to life)?! I can't believe that is what you mean...

Or were you saying that the hypocrites would say that... If that's the case, then you misunderstand what they are saying; they may say that abortion is murder, but they would not then say that it is nobody's business, which is why they'd argue that abortion should be illegal.

That is the main problem about the issue of abortion. Even disregarding religion, we as a society still haven't come up with an explicit definition for when a person's life actually begins. As I had mentioned in a different thread, one could argue that just as death is defined as when there is no more brain activity, then life should be defined as when brain activity commences, which would be late in the first trimester of a pregnancy. Others might argue that life should be defined as when a baby has been born, after it has left its mother's womb. If so, then one could argue that killing a pregnant woman should not be considered a double homicide as some states currently have. Because of this grey area of when life begins, there is also a grey area as to whether abortion is the killing of a life and therefore should be treated as a murder, or if it is just the removal of needless tissue and therefore should be treated as any other similar surgery (like the removal of a tumor).

Marriage, in a legal sense, is defined by the state where it is issued in order to afford the married couple certain benefits. Because these benefits are things that are granted by the government, then the government should be able to dictate the terms in order to receive such benefits. As such, a state may define marriage as between 2 people for financial reasons... This is the stated reason why Utah has become more relaxed with their polygamy laws in still criminalizing the act of actually getting multiple marriage licenses from the state, but decriminalizing the act of having multiple adults living in the same household (in Utah's eyes, a polygamist family only has one legally recognized married couple with other people also living together). I do think, however, that Utah's stance on marriage itself is somewhat hypocritical in that their logic for being against polygamy is for financial reasons, yet their reason for being against same-sex marriages is because its wrong (without a valid reason why other than a religious / moral stance). This is where I see more people being hypocritical; for polygamy they'll incorrectly assert that it isn't anybody's business except for those in the marriage and yet won't view same-sex marriages in the same rational.

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Re: Polygamy
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2014, 07:27:15 am »
well it is really hard to deal with one, but if a guy thinks that he can satisfy all his wifes equally,and can be fair with all of them, then he can have more than once.
but I doubt it, only successful people have one wife.

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