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liljp617

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Re: Flavored Cigarettes Ban in the US
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2009, 07:13:38 pm »
Booze causes car wreacks that kill others than the drunk themselves, battered women, violent domestic issues of all kinds, stupid decisions like "I should drive a boat right now" - or - "I think it would be a good idea to eat the chicken anyway - I wont get salmonila" etc.

These occurrences are all measured by the events that they are.  Drunk driving leading to deaths is counted as automobile fatalities.  Battery is not death, thus not relevant to the discussion we're having.  I don't know what salmonella has to do with any of this.  What argument are you reaching for exactly?

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Please use stats that are all incompassing - not just people who die from liver failure from drinking themselves to death but also the people that die from their poor/ignorant decision/choices.

They are encompassing.  Again, if you have something that drastically contradicts the numbers I gave, feel free to post it.  Until then, stop saying the statistics are illegitimate.  If they're illegitimate, then you should be able to find links contradicting my numbers in just a few minutes of a Google search.  Right now you're just throwing out baseless rhetoric of no value.

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Everyone in this country should realize that its not rights that matter most - its responsibility.

Its not a democracy but republic that was established.

If we contine to expect the government to legislate morals, reasonable, commen sense responsibilties and tell us what is good and/or bad we are truly on a slippery slope.

We are on no such slippery slope.

The idea that we should be completely left alone in the belief that people will do good to one another as much as possible is utopian idealist nonsense.  It doesn't work that way.

It doesn't take long to look back in history and see that when evidence-based, trial by jury court systems and legislation was put in place, society became much more mannered.  It wasn't that long ago when retributive justice was the answer to anything somebody did that you disagreed with; if you don't have a problem with a society based around retributive justice (which is basically inevitable with no centralized legal system or fully accepted social construct), I'd say there are bigger things to discuss about your philosophy.
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Re: Flavored Cigarettes Ban in the US
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2009, 09:46:19 pm »
clove ciggerets are good but i finnaly quit  :thumbsup:

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Re: Flavored Cigarettes Ban in the US
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2009, 05:23:01 pm »
I love your prose and the fact you dont misspell  :)

But - I simply disagree with your stance.

If I had time to continue this I would.

For the record - I smoke Marlboro Light 100's

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Re: Flavored Cigarettes Ban in the US
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2009, 02:08:11 pm »
I beleive it is a personal choice . This is supposed to be a free country.
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Re: Flavored Cigarettes Ban in the US
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2009, 04:54:14 pm »
smokings disgusting. all that money that smokers spend a week could be for someone who really needs that money. and smoking around kids just makes me angry

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