Congresswoman among 18 shot in Arizona attack; 6 dead

[jaymz462]

One interview though with the lady that wrestled the magazine from him she was quoted as saying "I had the courage to do so because I was armed I knew I had the ability to stop the situation without shooting, but could have had the situation led to it"

The other two that wrestled the guns away made very simular statements.

That strikes me as absurd.  "I was able to physically wrest a gun away from a maniac, but only because having a gun gave me courage!"  What an amazing trinket a gun must be, to bestow such powers.

Another anecdote from a gun-weilder who was at the scene: http://www.slate.com/id/2280794/

It occurs to me, while reading this article, that I forgot to point out that not only does Palin's map state "Let's take back the 20 together" that each of those 20 representatives are listed with a target in their respective states.  How is that for subtlety?

Amy, Amy, please, those were only surveyor marks!  Whocouldanode a crazy would think they were targets?  You libruls just hate America.

I think people that don't like people like Palin, Rush, etc. have projected their own feelings onto this situation to blame them and make them look at fault.   They had nothing to do with it. 

These people (luminaries of the conservative movement) openly foment hate with their rhetoric, day after day after day.  I'd say that's a little different than "rock music" and "movies."

[SCarter984]

It really does not matter what "fueled" his action.  Its the fact that he saw fit to carry it out with apparently no regard for (anyone's) life.  It seems to me that our society has come to believe that the only way to settle anything is with violence.  My condolences to those directly and indirectly affected by this sad affair.

[tyler8784]

My heart and prays go out to the loves ones that lost someone in the arizona attack and i am sorry that the congresswoman got hurt in this attack

[mattymatt79]

Obama “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,”
 
Baldwin "all of us together would go down to Washington and we would stone Henry Hyde to death! We would stone him to death! [crowd cheers] Wait! Shut up! Shut up! No shut up! I’m not finished. We would stone Henry Hyde to death and we would go to their homes and we’d kill their wives and their children. We would kill their families"

Democrat Paul Kanjorski “That Scott down there that’s running for governor of Florida,” Mr. Kanjorski said. “Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him [sic] and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him.“

McCaskill told the press that if democrats were not allowed to raise taxes on the rich, “It really is time for Americans to take up pitchforks.“

Obama “Hit back twice as hard“, union thug members of the SEIU beat a black man, Kenneth Gladney nearly to death. This happened a day after his comments to SEIU members.

Yeah, you can keep trying to "lay blame" but I can find just as many prime examples of how you're being nothing more than a hypocrite in trying to blame Tea Party, Republicans, or anyone else of the right. Especially since you know, reading things like the communist manefesto and regarding it as a brilliant book is such a conservative viewpoint.

[mattymatt79]

That being said, Palin and Rush and the rest of them are still idiot warmongering neocons that need to fade away and go back to alaska or wherever they're from. Please don't read what I wrote as support of them, because believe me, I do not.

Reading from Lew Rockwell today and I think he summed it up very well and I'll quote it here.
“President Reagan said, ‘We must reject the idea that every time a law’s broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.’ Acts of monstrous criminality stand on their own. They begin and end with the criminals who commit them, not collectively with all the citizens of a state, not with those who listen to talk radio, not with maps of swing districts used by both sides of the aisle, not with law-abiding citizens who respectfully exercise their First Amendment rights at campaign rallies, not with those who proudly voted in the last election.”(emphasis mine being Lew Rockwell)

It appears Palin and Rush are feeling unjustly blamed for the actions of an extremist; perhaps they can ask Muslims for advice on how to deal with that?

Also, I’m sure it’s beyond Sarah’s mental capacity to reconcile her quote above with her neo-conservative, war-mongering foreign policy.

[amyrouse]

Of course, Sarah is the real victim here.  Why in the world should anyone call her out on her hate all in the name of family values? 

It is true that she did not pull the trigger.  Loughner may not have even been a fan of hers.  The issue, though, is that her type of pontification only serves to stoke fires rather than snuff them out.  All politicians make statements that are deemed inflammatory, but Palin is the only one I've seen that consistently gives the impression that the opposition isn't worthy of classification as a human being worthy of life.

Call me a hypocrite if you wish.  I stand by my statements.  Sarah Palin needs to take responsibility for her actions instead of crying that the big bad public just doesn't understand her and wants to put the blame on her shoulders...

[tyler8784]

I hope everyone that was in that shooting is okay and i hope that the guy that started it is in jail

[ppv2]

The shooting incident in Arizona is such a tragedy for our country.

[dell9031]

That SOB.....he needs to be "put down" like an animal.  He is not human...doesn't deserve jail...he is an animal...and bad animals get put down.

[marygalla]

well i read a post from another site which said blaming guns for shooting people is like blaming spoons for oprah being fat.  i know stupid but it makes sense.
on the other note laughner goes for hearing tomorrow.  let's hope someone has enough sense to keep this lunatic locked up until they put him to sleep.

[amyrouse]

It appears Palin and Rush are feeling unjustly blamed for the actions of an extremist; perhaps they can ask Muslims for advice on how to deal with that?

Also, I’m sure it’s beyond Sarah’s mental capacity to reconcile her quote above with her neo-conservative, war-mongering foreign policy.

I just re-read what you wrote here, and I wanted to quote it and tell you that I think it is beautiful!

The more and more that I am reading what you say, Matt, the more I am liking you, even though we disagree on a great many things (Rand Paul, abortion, gun control, etc.).  I can only hope that more people can begin to like the ones they disagree with and debate in a civilized manner.  However, this does not sell newspapers... 

[mattymatt79]

I can't take credit for it, I just believe it. It came from the Lew Rockwell article I posted earlier.
People like Palin and Huckabee and the rest of them that claim to be so "prolife" yet have no qualms with hurting countless people in other countries upsets me greatly.

An article again from LR makes a great point about the March for Life today and how hypocritical it is in a lot of ways. These people are strongly against Abortion, yet are completely OK with murdering countless people in Iraq and Afghanastan. I don't see how you can be against one, and yet for the other. Palin exhibits this with her neocon warmongering stance. Same with most of the them; DeMint, Huckabee, Romney. Yet, they continually rank high in straw polls as being good christian leaders. It doesn't equate to me at all.

We may disagree Amy on a lot, but I think deep down if you look at politics as a circle as opposed to a right / left line, you and I would meet up a lot more and agree on a lot more than we actually think. We can at least discuss things without getting upset at each other and that's what fuels the discussion. You're right though, discussing while disagreeing doesn't sell newspapers or market shares on TV.

[hayhal74]

I still think of this horrible tragedy everyday....hope all the families are doing well.

[marygalla]

anyone who doesn't believe in God or miracles needs to pay attention to the miraculous recovery this fine woman is making.