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[frozenimage]

I believe if two adults are consensual about it. Then I see no reason why they should get married, regardless of sex.

[amyrouse]

I have stayed 100% on topic, and I did it without calling people evil or passing religious judgment on them.  Love is not a choice but a lifestyle.  In a country where we have religious freedom, gay marriage should be legal.  Otherwise, it is discrimination.

I will no longer be trolled.  Anyone else have something to say, I will be happy to address it.  

Trolled Amy, I posted twice in this thread before you came on board. I didn't call people evil so stop putting words in my mouth. However, sin that people commit, IS evil.

Like I said before, you and I have not agreed on this from the beginning. We and others have debated this long and hard in other threads. This is not personal, but a difference in beliefs. Both of us believe very strongly about this subject, and we are at totally opposite ends of the spectrum in our separate beliefs. That's just how it is.

I am going to hate myself for this tomorrow because I promised myself I would never respond to you again, and through my weakness I am taking the bait.

My posts were not aimed at you.  It is very clear my position on gay marriage by anyone who has ever conversed with me in this forum or outside (and you have done both), and I have the freedom to post my opinion in a gay marriage thread as much as you do, Annella.  You continuously direct your comments at me, though, when you know how adamant I am about my position.  Your words are wasted on me.  

Saying repeatedly that we have debated this previously adds nothing to the topic, so why do you feel the need to do this?  This has no impact on my steadfast support of gay people and gay marriage.  Do you believe that making the weak comment about "the Bible says no" and "gay people are sinners" is really going to do anything other than make you look bad?  You are trolling me, Annella, just the way you troll people who disagree with you in other topics.

I would in no way attempt to impede on your freedom to post in this forum as you will.  Please stop trying to do so to me.

As for calling gay people evil:

Homosexuality is a sin against God, the Bible calls it a stink in God's nostrils, and an abomination. How can I compromise or gloss over the Truth of the Bible?  I can not, and will not. However, you can find those who call themselves Christians who will. There are also so called Christian denominations putting homosexuals in the Ministry. The highest form of blasphemy I can think of is to call evil good, and good evil.....and that is Biblical.

Interpret it as you will.  There are as many interpretations of the Bible as there can be on your own statement.    I, however, see absolutely no love in these words of yours.  So many words of yours are absent of love.  Not exactly the type of person I would wish to have preach to me.

What bait? I'm not baiting you....I'm voicing my own belief in a thread that interested me. When I posted in this thread, you were not even in it or posted anything yet. Something is very clearly wrong with your accusation of me trolling you Amy. Anybody can go back in this thread and read it all the way through to see that your accusation is unfounded. What I do see is an axe to grind, and it's not my axe. You are taking this way too personal, so it's time to let this go as it's not about the subject anymore. Why do I say that? Because of your words at the beginning of your post, then you say your posts are not aimed at me.

Don't say something unless you are willing to stand by it 100%.

There is NOTHING I have said that I would not stand by 100% concerning the Word of God. I've never waffled on anything I've said about the sin of homosexuality or anything I've posted in this forum anything Biblically. You've accused me of this before, and my answer to you is the SAME. What have I not stood by 100%?

Amy, both of us have every right to post in this public forum. Post away, and forget about if someone aims a post at you or not. Really.....who cares?  Believe me, it's not worth the aggravation. I'm not trying to impede on your freedom to post in this forum. Goodness, it's a silly forum for crying out loud! Sorry FC.

Have a good evening and spend some quality time with your family.....they are the ones that are worth any aggravation.

Please don't flatter yourself.  And please make no further mention of my family.  You have made it clear again and again how little you ever knew me, and for you to make even the slightest mention of my family?  Really?  You are just a piece of gum on the bottom of my shoe, and nothing more.

You're the one making everything personal, as you have done time and again.  Besides that fact, gay marriage is a very personal issue for me.  Of course I'm going to get offended when you call gay people evil as I clearly pointed out in my previous post.  Issues such as gay marriage, women's rights, and religion are very personal issues for me, as they are for anyone.  If you don't want anyone to take your posts personally, don't post in those topics.  If you do post in those topics, don't whine "you're taking this personally!" when someone does.  This is not a difficult concept to comprehend.  Stop play acting like you have compassion and actually display it.  Honestly.  Your words on this topic alone have no compassion in them, and that should, quite honestly, be included in Reverend 101. 

[Annella]

Why can't gay people get married like the rest of the population? If they want to get married and be miserable like everyone else, then let them. Who cares? I don't think its anyone's business what two consenting adults do with eachother. Are they out murdering people? No. So, how is it hurting other people if they marry?

I think that people should mind their own business when it comes to this. Too many people sticking their nose in other peoples business these days. Oh, its a sin, omg, They're different. Eww they like other men... Screw that and anyone who thinks that way. How dare anyone judge them because of who they love. I'm not saying that anyone specifically here is acting like that, but a lot of people in this world look down their noses at others  bc it goes against their precious, man-written book, instead of thinking for themselves.

A disagreement about homosexuality has nothing to do with anyone looking down their nose at anybody. As far as our man-written book as you call it, it's called the Bible. Some of us believe in what is written within it's pages. Homosexuality (according to the Bible) is a defilement of the people and their land. It's the same today. Sinful behavior does corrupt a people, including their land/Nation.

In fact, the judgement that you are accusing believers of exercising, is so clearly evident in your post against those who believe in the Bible and it's teachings.

You are a defilement of my people and our land..........all of Turtle Island.

I am very disappointed in your attitude towards her.  I've seen other posts in your threads between you and her where you shared things with her and she was very interested in your cause and supporting you with things that happened and are happening.  Is there a particular reason or are you letting your anger dictate?

It's very simple, Ms. Julie. I am, as you have seen totally immersed in all the negative aspects of the ongoing genocide of The People, and over the course of time have tried to come to some understanding of the whys by studying the various mindsets and morals of the oppressors and she is the very embodiment of damned near every one of the vile, despicable and deranged thought processes that have caused the conditions many of our Relations live in today and the heinous murder of over 10 million of The People. Can you even begin to appreciate what 10 million dead Relatives would look like?

Annella constantly preaches and promotes the very ideas and warped mindset that has justified to those who would be deceived by her the destruction of Cultures around the world and multitudes of entire populations to become extinct. Were she to have her way, what is left of the Indigenous of this continent would cease to exist as well.

If it were not for the intolerant attitude of which she has to the extreme, all of our Nations would be living in peace and on equal footing, not as oppressors and oppressed. And we would not be a mere 1% of the population.

Annella should be the poster child of Christian oppression with the agenda of world domination. I have no word for the contempt I feel for her and her smug holier than thou sewage that she spews.

Wow, I must have more power than I could even imagine. Cool!

[Annella]

Please don't flatter yourself.  And please make no further mention of my family.  You have made it clear again and again how little you ever knew me, and for you to make even the slightest mention of my family?  Really?  You are just a piece of gum on the bottom of my shoe, and nothing more.

You're the one making everything personal, as you have done time and again.  Besides that fact, gay marriage is a very personal issue for me.  Of course I'm going to get offended when you call gay people evil as I clearly pointed out in my previous post.  Issues such as gay marriage, women's rights, and religion are very personal issues for me, as they are for anyone.  If you don't want anyone to take your posts personally, don't post in those topics.  If you do post in those topics, don't whine "you're taking this personally!" when someone does.  This is not a difficult concept to comprehend.  Stop play acting like you have compassion and actually display it.  Honestly.  Your words on this topic alone have no compassion in them, and that should, quite honestly, be included in Reverend 101.

Take care, and I'll see ya around the forum.

[britaniroberts]

Absolutely. Just because they have different beliefs doesn't mean anything. They are people too, so they should be treated just as everyone else.

[tzs]

Of course, love really knows no boundaries in my heart......

[dodgers16]

 yea I am fine with gay marriage! In know way does it affect me, so why should I care 

[sflynt]

Of course, love really knows no boundaries in my heart......

exactly.

 

[fbongo]

yea i support gay marriage because it shouldnt matter whether a man is with another man and vise verse because if you are in love with the person you should be able to marry who you wanna marry being gay is not a choice god made people that way and almost all my friends are gay and im a gay man myself and i believe everybody should be able to marry who they love man and man woman and woman  and man and women we are people to

Just to clarify a statement in there, about 'god made people that way' etc.etc.

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. (NKJ, Leviticus 18:22)

If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. (NKJ, Leviticus 20:13)

The Bible states it an abomination for men and women to be intimate with each other in such a manner. Therefore, God did not make us that way, we choose it - as we choose everything that we do.


Not everyone cares to follow the Word of God. Not everyone believes. It's hard to point a finger and say 'believe me, it's true!'. I didn't believe that way and I doubt anyone else would! However, if a person wants to find truth, I believe they can seek it and we'll land at the same spot, because truth doesn't change. If a person doesn't want to seek truth and just wants to do whatever he/she feels like, well, there ya go.

Either way, we should still respect one another.

Being gay is not a choice because there are people who have known they were LGBT since they were 10 years old. Also, who would choose to be a minority that is constantly discriminated against and, quite frankly, seen as a second class citizen.

The only choice LGBT people have is whether they want to live a lie and conform to society's heteronormative ways, or live as themselves and find happiness.

[hawkeye3210]

I think gays should be able to get married.  I have my own religious beliefs but do not feel they should doctrine the way others live.

[LilyLilac]

I'm probably going to get a lot of haters for this, but no. I don't.
I mean, it IS their lives, but i just think that it is wrong.
But that's just me.

[kittyspams]

I support it. Totally.

[wishingstar2]

nope

[wishingstar2]

yea