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In Seattle, Wash., a white male teacher had an 8-year-old African American girl removed from the classroom. In most cases, children are removed for behavioral and disciplinary issues, which is clearly understandable and acceptable; however, this wasn’t the case here.
The teacher removed the girl, claiming her Afro was making him sick. Naturally, the father of the child, Charles Mudede, was extremely concerned after the incident, and, as a result, the girl, who was the only black child in the advanced-placement class, has missed two weeks of school.
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http://rollingout.com/newsapolitics/news/9690-black-child-removed-from-school-white-teacher-allergic-to-afro.html
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I'm sorry, I am not "black" I am "brown" as in Indian :0)
Our Spiritual beliefs do not allow for cutting of our hair except in very specific instances.
Last summer I was physically assaulted, by three men in an Eastern state, their reason according to them was because they didn't appreciate brown skinned people with braids coming into their community taking jobs. To start with, traditionally my Nation included the part of the state that I was in and I had actually been a resident there for nearly 20 years.
There is no way anyone can convince me that one can become physically ill because of a hairstyle.
No I didn't post this because I am black, nor because I am brown....the article exists because the child was black and the teacher wasn't, period.
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I read the WHOLE article and it states that the smell was what caused this. First of all the teacher should be up on the board for questioning. As young as this child was, there could be neglect in the home, something that would get a teachers attention into removing themselves and seeking out a counselor. IM NOT saying this child was neglected, but if you guys would read the entire article it was not on how BIG the fro was. This is not funny at all in the least.
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This is not funny at all in the least.
I gotta admit...as insensitive and terrible as it is, I laughed when I saw Buckwheat as the main picture for the article.
This is suspicious of racism but I had read some of the comments below talking about allergies and I could totally agree-- I have horrible allergies to some hair products and it drives me insane when your eyes constantly water and you sneeze left and right. Many of the drugs you can take for it dry me out and I feel like crap-- I can't imagine teaching kids in either situation. But the teacher made an awful plan-of-attack on this by removing the only black kid for...2 WEEKS!? C'mon, teacher. All of the kids should be a priority and he forgot that due to caring only for himself. He got caught in a racism trap because of it. So racist or not, depending on how you look at it, it's inexcusable.
I'm sorry, I am not "black" I am "brown" as in Indian :0)
We all bleed red, brudda. :peace:
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but that was a requirement even when I was in school...to be well groomed and dressed. You can't have this enormous afro ecspecially sitting next to someone in class and it all in their face.
Kids are not allowed to go to school with mohowks and all other stuff.
Depends on where you're going to school. I know of a large number of students who have mohawks at my school and other schools. I don't see how hair says whether or not you are "well-groomed"....
Regardless it kind of sounds to me like this teacher wasn't incredibly racially tolerant but mabye there's some details we just don't know(?)...I'm sorry, I am not "black" I am "brown" as in Indian :0)
We all bleed red, brudda. :peace:
I couldn't agree more. Now if we could only get everyone (or at least most people) to understand this...
Much love to all of those who agree "We all bleed red, brudda." :thumbsup:
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Yet another sign why the world is where it is today...smh
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It's possible that the teacher had a genuine allergic reaction to some product the child was using in her hair, just as some people become ill from smelling perfume. The problem should have been handled with kindness and sensitivity to protect the child's feelings. I'm horrified that this incident wound up in the news. Above all, the youngster should not have been forced to miss two weeks of school!
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I'm sorry, I am not "black" I am "brown" as in Indian :0)
We all bleed red, brudda. :peace:
I get that comment from time to time however in order to form a response to it I have to ask, what exactly does that mean to you?
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she could have ask the parent about what she put on his hair...cause it was making her sick.
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If it was truly because the child was black and this teacher had a problem with that, then I say discipline the teacher, by all means! Just to play devil's advocate, though, it's easy to jump on the "he's a racist" bandwagon and just assume the worst. What if the child was given some sort of hair spray that DID cause asthma or some other sort of reaction? I know that I'm sensitive to perfumes and smells, but I can usually walk away from the offending person-in a classroom situation, this guy is stuck in that room for HOURS with something that might really cause him to get hives or something! Is THAT fair??
I have to go read the story, but I have a feeling they won't go into much detail about the actual supposed "allergy". I think this one is going to focus mainly on one person is black and the other is white-if it had been a situation where a white teacher kicked a white student out of clas because of too much perfume, would this really be an issue?
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Are you kidding me? This is clearly racism. The child's hair style was a cultural statement, not to be offensive towards anyone. It's no different than other practices from other cultures. The teacher was just being intolerable.
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I get that comment from time to time however in order to form a response to it I have to ask, what exactly does that mean to you?
Whoops-- should have cleared that up since it can mean a ton of things for different scenarios. I guess I meant it to mean differences (physical or mental) should be respected because we're all connected deep in that one way.
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I get that comment from time to time however in order to form a response to it I have to ask, what exactly does that mean to you?
Whoops-- should have cleared that up since it can mean a ton of things for different scenarios. I guess I meant it to mean differences (physical or mental) should be respected because we're all connected deep in that one way.
I agree 110%
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The school really should have sent a note home stating that the child needed to be bathed or talked to local child authorities and stated concern that the child clearly needed to be bathed. I don't think that the child should of been takin out of the class room, Maybe moved to another area of the room. The teacher could of opened a window or taken some sort of allergy medication until the situation was dealt with. The whole situation was handled poorly. It's situations like this that just *bleep* me off. I can't stand racism prejudism or hate towards others. I just think it shows ignorance on the part of all who act like this.
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This was poorly handled to say the least. That must be some severe allergy....
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Are you kidding me? This is clearly racism. The child's hair style was a cultural statement, not to be offensive towards anyone. It's no different than other practices from other cultures. The teacher was just being intolerable.
A statement? psh...
They need to do something with their hair because sometimes you can't see over it and see the board if you are sitting behind them...
If someone tried to remove my child from school because the teacher is allergic to his/her hair..I would love to get 5 minutes alone with that teacher, have her produce the medical diagnostic proof from her doctor about exactly what chemical(s) substance in this kid's hair is making her physicall ill, a written statement from the teachers doctor explaining exactly why she cannot be around this kid, or any one with that substance in their hair, because guess what?
Black people are not the only ones that use that substance in their hair, and therefore each kid white, or black would have to be tested for that same substance in their hair just incase of another potential teacher's future sickness for the same reasons!!!
Also, I would let that teacher know that if it is that serious that she had to send a child home, and she is truly allergic to this kids "afro" and it made her sick, she needs to quit teaching and go to the hospital and get treatment!!!!! This teacher doesn't need to be teaching school. That's a lame excuse to remove someone! How did she/he become a dang teacher anyway if she can't handle a little afro-sheen???
She needs to rethink her career choice if a kid's afro is going to make her sick during class. Hope she never moves to Austin, because our children here dawn big, beautiful knarly dreadlocks in their hair, and no one gives a flying F@#$! Obviously, this teacher is nieve and doesn't know the half of the bad crap she could experience teaching kids!!!! This is just a lightweight issue!! And as far as "afros" getting in the way of other children, if your child can't see the board, move your spoiled rotton child's *bleep* to another seat!!!!!!! That way, everyone has a solution to the problem, no racism, no "getting sick", no children getting sent home, no problem. And no pissing me off!!!!
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I agree with whoever said this was handled poorly-That's a REALLY good point. They should have sent a note home with the student stating that the chemicals they were using were causing allergic reactions and politely request that they discontinue the useof whatever it was. As far as needing a DOCTOR's note, I can't disagree more! Give me a break! Every time someone sneezes over a potent smell, do they need to go take a day off work, go to the doctor, then pay the doctor to tell them they have a simple allergy? Maybe it wasn't an ALLERGY-maybe it just made him SICK to SMELL it! Who cares? Next time you're stuck in a small room with someone wearing too much perfume EVERY day of work, let me know how you like it! PLUS, when the doctor says that the chemical is making this teacher feel ill, is the DOCTOR racist now??? We throw that term around way too loosely. Bottom line: School is not the place to be wearing tons of cologne, perfume, hair scent, or other really smelly stuff, REGARDLESS of your color! If you want to wear that stuff, do it at home!
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I agree with whoever said this was handled poorly-That's a REALLY good point. They should have sent a note home with the student stating that the chemicals they were using were causing allergic reactions and politely request that they discontinue the useof whatever it was. As far as needing a DOCTOR's note, I can't disagree more! Give me a break! Every time someone sneezes over a potent smell, do they need to go take a day off work, go to the doctor, then pay the doctor to tell them they have a simple allergy? Maybe it wasn't an ALLERGY-maybe it just made him SICK to SMELL it! Who cares? Next time you're stuck in a small room with someone wearing too much perfume EVERY day of work, let me know how you like it! PLUS, when the doctor says that the chemical is making this teacher feel ill, is the DOCTOR racist now??? We throw that term around way too loosely. Bottom line: School is not the place to be wearing tons of cologne, perfume, hair scent, or other really smelly stuff, REGARDLESS of your color! If you want to wear that stuff, do it at home!
or perhaps......if you dont want to be exposed to it, you stay home!!!
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I have moved past the racial profiling stories. It doesn't matter if the kid was black or the teacher was whatever.
The kid had a hair product that was making the teacher have allergies, very possible as I have allergies to certain hair products and just being in the same room with some one makes me sneeze non-stop.
It could have been handled differently but there is no racial hate or descrimination going on except from the author of the story and those here crying about it.
If it would have happened to my kid I would have liked to have a conversation to find out all the details. And if my kids hair product was the problem I would do something about it.
Some of the responses are just silly....a doctors note from the teacher, or yeah lets have the teacher stay home! ::)
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I agree with whoever said this was handled poorly-That's a REALLY good point. They should have sent a note home with the student stating that the chemicals they were using were causing allergic reactions and politely request that they discontinue the useof whatever it was. As far as needing a DOCTOR's note, I can't disagree more! Give me a break! Every time someone sneezes over a potent smell, do they need to go take a day off work, go to the doctor, then pay the doctor to tell them they have a simple allergy? Maybe it wasn't an ALLERGY-maybe it just made him SICK to SMELL it! Who cares? Next time you're stuck in a small room with someone wearing too much perfume EVERY day of work, let me know how you like it! PLUS, when the doctor says that the chemical is making this teacher feel ill, is the DOCTOR racist now??? We throw that term around way too loosely. Bottom line: School is not the place to be wearing tons of cologne, perfume, hair scent, or other really smelly stuff, REGARDLESS of your color! If you want to wear that stuff, do it at home!
or perhaps......if you dont want to be exposed to it, you stay home!!!
LOL! Yeah, ok-that makes sense!! Good answer!
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My husband has a bad reaction to most scents. I can't wear perfume or body spray around him. If I want to spray lysol, febreze, etc. I have to do it when he's not here. He will have a migraine in a matter of minutes. Not saying this teacher isn't racist or making up excuses, but there are people that have severe reactions to things like that.
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Maybe the teacher said he was allergic when the reality is he was just grossed out by the big mess of hair.
i really despise you.... are you white? I'm not racist but as I'm reading you're comments it seems as if you have a thing against black people [correction, Indian people]. Assuming that you aren't Indian you're jealous that you can,t wear your hair like that because of the volume and texture. It's ashamed people hate on other people because they cant do what others can.
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No it's more like move afro puff to the back of the classroom but that would be racism right? It's common sense you don't put a 6 ft tall person in front of a 5 ft girl...seat wise.
"move afro puff "?! I don't believe you actually said that. You're a disgrace and have the freaking nerve to call yourself one of God's followers/children?! :angry7:
By the way, the photo with the article is not the child, so you don't even know what she looks like or her hair.
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Maybe the teacher said he was allergic when the reality is he was just grossed out by the big mess of hair.
WOW!!! I hope your just trolling If your not you are messed up
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I have moved past the racial profiling stories. It doesn't matter if the kid was black or the teacher was whatever.
The kid had a hair product that was making the teacher have allergies, very possible as I have allergies to certain hair products and just being in the same room with some one makes me sneeze non-stop.
It could have been handled differently but there is no racial hate or descrimination going on except from the author of the story and those here crying about it.
If it would have happened to my kid I would have liked to have a conversation to find out all the details. And if my kids hair product was the problem I would do something about it.
Some of the responses are just silly....a doctors note from the teacher, or yeah lets have the teacher stay home! ::)
The only prejudice I have is towards idiots, which has NO racial bounds.
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I have moved past the racial profiling stories. It doesn't matter if the kid was black or the teacher was whatever.
The kid had a hair product that was making the teacher have allergies, very possible as I have allergies to certain hair products and just being in the same room with some one makes me sneeze non-stop.
It could have been handled differently but there is no racial hate or descrimination going on except from the author of the story and those here crying about it.
If it would have happened to my kid I would have liked to have a conversation to find out all the details. And if my kids hair product was the problem I would do something about it.
Some of the responses are just silly....a doctors note from the teacher, or yeah lets have the teacher stay home! ::)
The only prejudice I have is towards idiots, which has NO racial bounds.
Hard to believe since almost all of your post contain some sort of racial wrong doing by others! Blowing it up and trying to sugar coat it is not helping your case either.
Yes we all know there is racism! It doesn't help when the ignorant try to make every story they hear or read out to be racism when they don't know the full story.
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Wow I would say this is really racist issue right there where someone is expelled from school because they are allergic to Afros that is just freakin ridiculous....that's what i think....that the teacher didn't like the student and well didn't have anyway of causing problems to the students until he thought up some way causing him to be expelled...I would say that the teacher is totally racist right there.
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Maybe the teacher said he was allergic when the reality is he was just grossed out by the big mess of hair.
very tired of dumb dirty scank bitches
...Have a nice day ;D
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Does it take any of you 5 days to wash your hair???
Yeah, ask the child to go home and wash their hair, but 5 days is punishment when no deliberate wrong had been done......tech has some serious issues, I would be very reluctant to allow my child to attend a school that allows much less encourages such behavior.
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Maybe the teacher said he was allergic when the reality is he was just grossed out by the big mess of hair.
WOW!!! I hope your just trolling If your not you are messed up
Did I say I was grossed out? NOPE, NO I DIDN'T. I was just thinking of why the teacher did what he did and towards the black kid...READ AND UNDERSTAND ENGLISH...damn!!!!!!!!!!
I have heard a lot of RACIST people talk so that's why I wrote it...don't act surprised. I could of never came up with that. :angel11:
The thing that suprises me marieelisa, is that you don't understand how to have an adult conversation without getting hurt. So, I will come down to your level, maybe you will see my words, like you should see yours.......You know, I've seen your hair and it looks like a big mess-why don't you post your pic on your profile again instead, because you obviously don't think before you speak, troll! Gripless!!!!!!!!!
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Are you people that dense? But go on continue and miss the point I made... laughable.
no one missed your point
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very tired of dumb dirty scank bitches
...Have a nice day ;D
That one is priceless! Oh good, now we have to look at the 'hot mess' you are again. I would love to bring you where I live and have you say any of the racist things you have put down here - no, this from you is pure BS - "I have heard a lot of RACIST people talk so that's why I wrote it...don't act surprised. I could of never came up with that." You would very quickly find out what is not acceptable and be shown where your ignorance will take you in real life, not in your little bubble world. It makes me ill to read just how insensitive you are toward others and then tell all of us that we have a problem. You might be 28 (or whatever age you're claiming now, who knows) in years, but you are no better or smarter than a 10 year old bully.
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That is terrible. It is so sad and racist. Race relations in the US still need a lot of work.
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Teacher cannot make independent decisions like that. I am sure some of that hair stuff smells bad and can affect folks negatively. The teacher would have to take it to his/her boss to explain issue. If teacher is allergic they have to get a medical verification from physician. Then it can be dealt with. Should have been handled differently.